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Bronsert, Jeffrey

[GiDlist] combination of quadratic elements and normal eleme

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Hi all,

I have a question concerning the mesh process. In my geometry I've got volumes and lines. I want to mesh the volumes with quadratic elements and the line elements with normal (linear elements) because the line elements should represent spring elements. In my mesh now all the elements are meshed with quadratic elements. Is it possible to mesh only the volumes with quadratic elements and the lines with linear elements?

Best regards
Jeff
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[GiDlist] combination of quadratic elements and normal eleme

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Dear Jeff,



It is not possible to do so with GiD: the quadratic property is applied to
the whole mesh (with all the kinds of elements generated.



Kind regards,




ABEL





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Hi all,



I have a question concerning the mesh process. In my geometry I’ve got
volumes and lines. I want to mesh the volumes with quadratic elements and
the line elements with normal (linear elements) because the line elements
should represent spring elements. In my mesh now all the elements are meshed
with quadratic elements. Is it possible to mesh only the volumes with
quadratic elements and the lines with linear elements?



Best regards

Jeff

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[GiDlist] combination of quadratic elements and normal eleme

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Hi Jeff,



Now is not possible to generate part of a mesh quadratic and part linear,
because Quadratic is a global variable (not a local setting attached to each
entity)



You can do some other tricks, like write for your solver the quadratic line
elements like linear, ignoring the third node, or write it but ignore its
quadratic node for the calculation, etc.



Enrique Escolano



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Hi all,



I have a question concerning the mesh process. In my geometry I’ve got
volumes and lines. I want to mesh the volumes with quadratic elements and
the line elements with normal (linear elements) because the line elements
should represent spring elements. In my mesh now all the elements are meshed
with quadratic elements. Is it possible to mesh only the volumes with
quadratic elements and the lines with linear elements?



Best regards

Jeff

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Bronsert, Jeffrey

[GiDlist] combination of quadratic elements and normal eleme

Post by Bronsert, Jeffrey »

Hi Enrique and Abel,

thanks for your quick reply

Kind regards
Jeff

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Betreff: Re: [GiDlist] combination of quadratic elements and normal elements

Hi Jeff,

Now is not possible to generate part of a mesh quadratic and part linear, because Quadratic is a global variable (not a local setting attached to each entity)

You can do some other tricks, like write for your solver the quadratic line elements like linear, ignoring the third node, or write it but ignore its quadratic node for the calculation, etc.

Enrique Escolano

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Asunto: [GiDlist] combination of quadratic elements and normal elements

Hi all,

I have a question concerning the mesh process. In my geometry I've got volumes and lines. I want to mesh the volumes with quadratic elements and the line elements with normal (linear elements) because the line elements should represent spring elements. In my mesh now all the elements are meshed with quadratic elements. Is it possible to mesh only the volumes with quadratic elements and the lines with linear elements?

Best regards
Jeff
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David R. José

[GiDlist] Vectors and matrices

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Hello.Is there a way to deal with vectors and matrices to store and print data when dealing with the .bas file?
Thanks!
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[GiDlist] Vectors and matrices

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No, the .bas language doesn’t support any kind of array.

To do complicated thinks you can invoke from the .bas file a Tcl command
*tcl(procedure_name). The value returned by the procedure is directly
printed to the output file.



Tcl/Tk is a full and powerful scripting language with all you can need (also
arrays off course). You can find information about it in the GiD help, and
in Internet.

You can see the Tcl documentation for example from the RamDebugger Help
(Data-Problemtype-Debugger, or press F11 to open it)

This documentation (Html format) is locally stored at C:\Program
Files\GiD\GiD 11.1.8d\scripts\ramdebugger\help



Enrique Escolano



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Enviado el: lunes, 3 de marzo de 2014 23:18
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Hello.

Is there a way to deal with vectors and matrices to store and print data
when dealing with the .bas file?



Thanks!

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David R. José

[GiDlist] Vectors and matrices

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Dear Mr. Escolano, thanks for your reply.I'll look into tcl/tk programming.
In an unrelated issue: can an "if" statement be triggered by the existence of a condition?Say, for example, I loop around the nodes and if a node has a condition, then the "if" is triggered.Something like:*loop nodes*if ( "condition of node constraint exists on that node" )....*end nodes
Thanks in advance.

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Hello.Is there a way to deal with vectors and matrices to store and print data when dealing with the .bas file?
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No, the .bas language doesn?t support any kind of array.

To do complicated thinks you can invoke from the .bas file a Tcl command
*tcl(procedure_name). The value returned by the procedure is directly
printed to the output file.



Tcl/Tk is a full and powerful scripting language with all you can need (also
arrays off course). You can find information about it in the GiD help, and
in Internet.

You can see the Tcl documentation for example from the RamDebugger Help
(Data-Problemtype-Debugger, or press F11 to open it)

This documentation (Html format) is locally stored at C:\Program
Files\GiD\GiD 11.1.8d\scripts\ramdebugger\help



Enrique Escolano



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Hello.

Is there a way to deal with vectors and matrices to store and print data
when dealing with the .bas file?



Thanks!

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[GiDlist] Vectors and matrices

Post by escolano »

Yes, you can use if statements of some condition field, but to use some
*cond(your_field) command you must before use *set cond xxx and do the loop
*onlyincond (that will loop only in the nodes with this condition applied)



e.g.



*set cond your_condition

*loop nodes *onlyincond

*if(cond(your_field,int)==1)

THE NODE *nodesnum HAS APPLIED A CONDITION your_condition with value
equal to 1

*endif

*end nodes



Note that inside the *if is not necessary the asterisk for *cond(), and in
this case I also specificied the ,int parameter to say that this field must
be considered as an integer







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Dear Mr. Escolano, thanks for your reply.

I'll look into tcl/tk programming.



In an unrelated issue: can an "if" statement be triggered by the existence
of a condition?

Say, for example, I loop around the nodes and if a node has a condition,
then the "if" is triggered.

Something like:

*loop nodes

*if ( "condition of node constraint exists on that node" )

....

*end nodes



Thanks in advance.

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Hello.Is there a way to deal with vectors and matrices to store and print
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Thanks!
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No, the .bas language doesn?t support any kind of array.

To do complicated thinks you can invoke from the .bas file a Tcl command
*tcl(procedure_name). The value returned by the procedure is directly
printed to the output file.



Tcl/Tk is a full and powerful scripting language with all you can need
(also
arrays off course). You can find information about it in the GiD help, and
in Internet.

You can see the Tcl documentation for example from the RamDebugger Help
(Data-Problemtype-Debugger, or press F11 to open it)

This documentation (Html format) is locally stored at C:\Program
Files\GiD\GiD 11.1.8d\scripts\ramdebugger\help



Enrique Escolano



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Hello.

Is there a way to deal with vectors and matrices to store and print data
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