[GiDlist] Two layers, same mesh in plane XY, different divis

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You are showing the global numeration of the nodes, not the element list of connectivities!!

This global numeration is only like an identifier name of each node.
e.g. the node number 1 can't be the first node of each element!!

To know the nodes of an element you can list it (utilities-list-Element). First are listed corners, then middle nodes.

Regards

Enrique
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Hi
I am trying to generate quadratic hexahedral mesh in a simple cube. I am not able to understand the numbering sequence of the nodes. Should it not be like what is described in the documentation viz. all corners first and then the middle points ?

I have enclosed the screen print of the cube as jpg file. To understand, I have generated one element.

Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Munikoti


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[GiDlist] Two layers, same mesh in plane XY, different divis

Post by miguel »

Hi,



I didn't collapse the model. I just created the middle surface in the XY
plane, and just used it to do two extrusions (utility-copy) on either side
on this surface (the checkbox with the label 'duplicate entities' should be
unchecked). The options I used in this window are:



Entities type: Surface,



Transformation: rotation (to get the model I sent you before, perhaps in
your case should be translation),



First point..angle..second point... whatever



EmptyCheckBox - duplicate entities



Do extrude: volume



EmptyCheckBox - create contacts



(...)



In your case, where one of the volumes is already created, you should use
what you call the 'master surface' as a face of the second volume. I don't
know how do you create this second volume, but in the 'Utilities--Copy...'
window you can select this 'master surface' to do the extrusion of the
second volume.



Once the second volume is created, you can select
'Mesh--SemiStructured--Volumes' menu option. Enter the number of divisions
you want for the second volume, and click on the second volume, then press
'Escape'.

Now select 'Mesh--SemiStructured--Set--Master Surface' and click on your
'master surface'.

Now you can create your mesh.



If you don't want to remesh the first volume, just 'freeze' the layer where
the volume is: in the layer window, click on the layer and press the button
with the closed padlock icon. When a layer is frozen, it can not be edited
nor meshed.



Miguel



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De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
[mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] En nombre de Isabel Gil
Enviado el: martes, 03 de abril de 2007 17:22
Para: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
Asunto: Re: [GiDlist] Two layers, same mesh in plane XY, different division
in X axis.



Thank-you very much. Your plots have helped a lot.

Yes, more or less it is your problem which I was asking about.



Other questions that have sprung up are the following ones:



- Do you collapse the model? I mean, do use

"Geometry-edit-collapse-model" (or "Geometry-edit-collapse-surfaces" or

"Geometry-edit-collapse-volume") before using semistructured mesh? If

you do, which one, among these three possibilities, do you use?



- I have the same problem as you have but, in my case, the geometry that

lies on the layer (number 1) is already meshed (and although I speak of

cube, the geometry I actually use is more complicated). Then, I create

the second cube on another layer (number 2) but I would like to have the

same mesh on the master surface as you have. The only difference is that

the mesh over one cube is created previously.

Perhaps, the only solution is to create all mesh together from scratch

every time I add a new piece of my geometry. However, I have to create

and simulate my mesh little by little and if I have to create the

entirely mesh every time, it is really hard stuff, isn't it?

I don't know if I have explain myself correctly.



Again, thanks very much. I am looking forward to hearing from you.



Best regards

Isa



Miguel Pasenau wrote:

Hello,

Let's see if i've understood you:

¿you want something like the pictures I send you enclosed:

'Semistructured2cubes.png' and 'Semistructured2cubes2.png'?



To achieve this I've followed these steps:



Creation of the geometry: a square in the xy plane, and then an extrusion

with rotation of 60 degrees on the positive (in one layer) and negative Z

axis (in the other layer).



Semistructured mesh:

1. I choose 'Mesh--semistructured--Volumes' and a windows pop's up
asking

me 'Enter number of divisions and assign it to the semi-structured
volumes'.

2. I entered '4' and clicked on one volume,

3. then I entered '10' and clicked on the other volume.

4. then I pressed 'escape'.

5. now I chose 'Mesh--semistructured--Set--Master surface'

6. and selected the square which lies on the XY plane, because the mesh of

this 'master surface' will be the one to be extruded along the volumes,

i.e., the z axis.

7. and generated the mesh (Ctrl-G): 1260 Prisms.



I send you enclosed the model, too.



If this is not want you need, ¿can you send us an example?



Miguel



-----Mensaje original-----

De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu

[mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] En nombre de Isabel Gil

Enviado el: martes, 03 de abril de 2007 13:35

Para: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu

Asunto: Re: [GiDlist] Two layers, same mesh in plane XY, different
division

in X axis.



Sorry for my explanation.

I will try to clarify my doubts.



I have two volumes (indeed two cubes) in different layers that share one

surface.

Volume1 is already meshed and I would like to extrude its mesh made in

the sharing surface (XY-plane) into the opposite face of the Volume2.

On the other hand, I can have different divisions on the structured

direction in each volume, which is a feature that I need.



I have tried to use "Geometry-Create-Contact-Separated volume", as you

said (without using Geometry-Collapse-Model) but the message I obtain is

"2 surfaces are necessary".



Thanks in advance and best regards

Isa



Enrique Escolano wrote:



I don't understand well your questions.



Do you have two volumes in two different places, or they have some
surface



in the same location? Then they share this surface?



If a surface is shared between two volumes, then its nodes are also



shared. Maybe you need to collapse both surfaces.



If they are two separated surfaces, in general unstructured meshes



obtained can be different.



You can force the number of divisions in lines with



Mesh-Structured-Lines



If you really need to have the "same mesh" (a one-by-one relationship



between nodes), you can do a trick: create a "separated



contact volume" between this two surfaces



(Geometry-Create-Contact-Separated volume).



By default this pseudo-volume will create prisms connecting nodes, but
you



can avoid to create elemens for this volume with



Mesh-Mesh criteria-No mesh-Volumes



Regards



Enrique



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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:10 AM

Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Two layers, same mesh in plane XY, different



division in X axis.







Thanks Abel,



The problem isn't in the structured direction, it is in the plane where

the elements are unstructured.



Let's imagine I have a cube with 2 divisions in the structured direction

(z-axis) and 10 divisions per lines that form a square in the XY-plane.

I have the mesh created.

Later, I create another cube (on another layer) and I want to have

different divisions in the structured direction (z-axis), what I get it

easily, and I also want to have the same mesh in the XY-plane that both

cubes share, how could I do this last one?



Thanks in advance and best regards

Isa

Abel Coll wrote:





Dear Isa,



When you select a volume as Semi-structured, a window comes asking for



the



number of divisions in the structured direction, and you can assign a

different number of divisions to different volumes.



Regards,



ABEL



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Enviado el: lunes, 02 de abril de 2007 15:41

Para: GID_FORO

Asunto: [GiDlist] Two layers, same mesh in plane XY, different division



in X



axis.



Hi everybody!



I have the following question to ask:

I have two different layers in 3D (both of them belong of the same

geometry and sharing the plane XY) and I would like to use a

semistructured mesh:

- On one of the layers I would like to have a semistructured mesh in XY

plane and 4 divisions in structured direction (Z).

- On the another one I would like to have the same semistructured mesh

in XY plane but 10 divisions in structured direction (Z).



How would the way be in order to get this aim?



Any advice will be welcome.

Best regards and thanks in advance!

Isa







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