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                        [GiDlist] Coordinates of the direction of observation in GID 7.2 version ?

Send by: ieea
On: Fri Jan 3 15:20:02 CET 2003



Dear All,

I would like to come back to the coordinates of the direction of observation of the
geometry in GID.
Is the 7.2 version take into account this possibility ?

In my electromagnetic problem, the user could find easily the direction of propagation
of a wave.

Thanks again for you response and please receive my best wishes for the 2003 new year !
May all your (and mine too!) GID projects born this year !!

G.W.R.Geis


ieea a écrit :

> Thank you for the response.
>
> I have seen that the m matrix can be useful to obtain the 3D coordinates of the
> observation vector.
> I think this information could be useful to easily find an orientation vector of an
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                                    [GiDlist] Coordinates of the direction of observation in GID 7.2 version ?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 3 18:08:02 CET 2003



You can restore a view previously saved in a file with view->Save...

To restore the view, use from tcl:
.central.s process escape escape escape escape View ReadView "filename"

Enrique Escolano

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From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:16 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Coordinates of the direction of observation in GID 7.2
version ?


> Dear All,
>
> I would like to come back to the coordinates of the direction of
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                                                [GiDlist] arrays in tcl

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Fri Jan 3 18:27:01 CET 2003



Hello;
I am trying to modify the "parametric.tcl" file, so i wish to calculate the
lenght of parametric curve, like sum every segment(i), But i have troubles to
declarate the array, anybody can help me??
Advanced thanks;
i attached a pice of file to modify.

        for { set i 0 } { $i < $ParametricPriv(NumberPointsT) } { incr i} {
            set t [expr $a+$i*$b]
            set x [expr $fx]
            set y [expr $fy]
            set z [expr $fz]
            .central.s process $x $y $z
          #now i try to put the array
            set xlenght(i) $x
            set y1enght(i) $y
            set z1enght(i) $z
        }
        # calculate lenght
            set long 0

        for { set i 1 } { $i < $ParametricPriv(NumberPointsT) } { incr i} {
            set j [expr $i-1]
            set long[expr
sqrt(($xlenght(i)-$xlenght($j))*($xlenght(i)-$xlenght($j))+($ylenght(i)-$ylenght($j))*($ylenght(i)-$ylenght($j))+($zlenght(i)-$zlenght($j))*($zlenght(i)-$zlenght($j)))+$long]


        }


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                                                [GiDlist] arrays in tcl

Send by: Aleix Valls
On: Fri Jan 3 18:52:02 CET 2003



Hi,

 

There are some errors in this expression: (in red) maybe problems come
from these errors instead of tcl arrays.

 

            set xlength($i) $x 
            set y1ength($i) $y 
            set z1ength($i) $z      

 

And:

 

set long _ [expr
sqrt(($xlength($i)-$xlength($j))*($xlength($i)-$xlength($j))+($ylength($
i)-$ylength($j))*($ylength($i)-$ylength($j))+($zlength($i)-$zlength($j))
*($zlength($i)-$zlength($j)))+$long]

 

To compress this expression you can use pow(x,y), in your case
pow((($xlength($i)-$xlength($j),2)
..

Look that length=lenght

 

But remember that if any variable will be use like an array never can be
use like string or list before. For example:

 

Set zlength “”

Set zlength(1) 3 

It is and error.!!!! 

 

Bye,

 

Aleix

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                                                [GiDlist] arrays in tcl

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Fri Jan 3 19:27:02 CET 2003



alot of thanks Aleix

Aleix Valls escribió:

> Hi,
>
> There are some errors in this expression: (in red) maybe problems come
> from these errors instead of tcl arrays.
>
>             set xlength($i) $x
>             set y1ength($i) $y
>             set z1ength($i) $z
>
> And:
>
> set long _ [expr
> sqrt(($xlength($i)-$xlength($j))*($xlength($i)-$xlength($j))+($ylength($i)-$ylength($j))*($ylength($i)-$ylength($j))+($zlength($i)-$zlength($j))*($zlength($i)-$zlength($j)))+$long]
>
> To compress this expression you can use pow(x,y), in your case
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                                                [GiDlist] arrays in tcl

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 3 19:16:01 CET 2003



As Aleix says, the error surely is because the bad use of xlenght(i) instead xlenght($i) ...

It is not necessary to store the coordinates, you can calculate the long value directly inside the first loop.

You can also ask GiD to obtain a more acurate length of some curve with a regexp of the result of:
.central.s info list_entities lines "line number"
or with 
.central.s info listmassproperties lines "line number"

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pablo Perez del Castillo 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:19 AM
  Subject: [GiDlist] arrays in tcl


  Hello; 
  I am trying to modify the "parametric.tcl" file, so i wish to calculate the lenght of parametric curve, like sum every segment(i), But i have troubles to declarate the array, anybody can help me?? 
  Advanced thanks; 
  i attached a pice of file to modify. 
          for { set i 0 } { $i < $ParametricPriv(NumberPointsT) } { incr i} { 
              set t [expr $a+$i*$b] 
              set x [expr $fx] 
              set y [expr $fy] 
              set z [expr $fz] 
              .central.s process $x $y $z 
            #now i try to put the array 
              set xlenght(i) $x 
              set y1enght(i) $y 
              set z1enght(i) $z       
          } 
          # calculate lenght 
              set long 0 
    
          for { set i 1 } { $i < $ParametricPriv(NumberPointsT) } { incr i} { 
              set j [expr $i-1] 
              set long[expr sqrt(($xlenght(i)-$xlenght($j))*($xlenght(i)-$xlenght($j))+($ylenght(i)-$ylenght($j))*($ylenght(i)-$ylenght($j))+($zlenght(i)-$zlenght($j))*($zlenght(i)-$zlenght($j)))+$long] 
    
          } 
    
    

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                                                [GiDlist] arrays in tcl

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Sat Jan 4 13:38:02 CET 2003



Hello;
How Enrique note, if it use ".central.s info listmassproperties lines
"line number"", it is fater and easy. But you can tell me how many
points use GID to calculate the lenght?, i am using profiles similar to
NACA.
Thanks again

Another question;
I created a new menu, and it has a jpg pic, i had a lot of troubles to
get it, at the end i used the sample "coils", and i got it. Anybody can
explain me when declarate $dir in the next proc?


proc InitGIDProject { dir } {

  CreateMenu "ToolSail" "PRE"
  InsertMenuOption "ToolSail" "Section Sail" 0 "SectionSail "$dir""
"PRE"
  UpdateMenus
}

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                                                [GiDlist] arrays in tcl

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jan 7 10:16:04 CET 2003



1) The length of a parametric Nurbs line is calculated inside GiD, foreach interval between "knots", with a Gauss-Legendre numerical integration rule of 8 points. (it is not calculated as a simple piecewise linear interpolation)

2) To use the value $dir provided by the InitGIDProject procedure in anoter procedure, you can store the value in a global variable,
for example:
proc InitGIDProject { dir } { 
    global PabloPriv
    set PabloPriv(directory) $dir
}

proc AnotherProc { } {
    global PabloPriv
    WarnWinText "The value of dir is $PabloPriv(directory)"
}

Regards
Enrique Escolano
 
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                                                [GiDlist] Create ICON from GiD.

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Tue Jan 7 04:04:01 CET 2003



Happy New year to all of GiDListers!!!!

   I tried to create the ICONS from GiD. I got the
ICONs but I got trouble with its sizes.

How we fix the size of those ICONS?? Do we have to
specify the size of the ICON.gif from the xxxx.gif
software source??

Regards.

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                                                [GiDlist] Create ICON from GiD.

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jan 7 10:30:02 CET 2003



Where is trying to put the *.gif image:  In a toolbar ? in the conditions or
materials window?  ...
For example, in the toolbars, the "standard" gifs used by GiD are of 24x24
pixels, but this size is arbitrary.

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From: "VSayako Willy" <vilaysako at yahoo.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:02 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Create ICON from GiD.


>
> Happy New year to all of GiDListers!!!!
>
>    I tried to create the ICONS from GiD. I got the
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                        [GiDlist] Changing the name of the materials menu

Send by: ieea
On: Fri Jan 3 15:27:02 CET 2003



Dear all,

I find the materials configuration file very powerful, but in some cases
(in my case in particular !) the name "material" is not well adapted.
Is it possible, in a problem type, to assign an other name, both in the
data menu and as the title of the materials window.

Thank you for your response

G.W.R.Geis




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                                    [GiDlist] Changing the name of the materials menu

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Fri Jan 3 15:57:01 CET 2003



Dear Geis,

You can do the following in your InitGIDProject routine:

GidChangeDataLabel "Materials" "TheNameYouWant"

best regards,

Jorge Suit

ieea wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>I find the materials configuration file very powerful, but in some cases
>(in my case in particular !) the name "material" is not well adapted.
>Is it possible, in a problem type, to assign an other name, both in the
>data menu and as the title of the materials window.
>
>Thank you for your response
>
>G.W.R.Geis
>
>_______________________________________________
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                                    [GiDlist] Changing the name of the materials menu

Send by: Aleix Valls
On: Fri Jan 3 16:01:02 CET 2003



It is possible:

In materials file (problemtype_name.mat) create a book (using
instruction BOOK: book_name)

In tcl file (problemtype_name.tcl) use the following commands:

Proc InitGIDProject {dir} {
.
.
.
GidChangeDataLabel "Materials" "" 
#To delete materials entry in Data menu

GidAddUserDataOptions "book_name" "GidOpenMaterials book_name" 
#To add new Data menu entry with name "book_name"
.
.
.
.
}
If you need more help, you can take a look to Nastran problem type like
an example.

Bye,

Aleix
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                                    [GiDlist] Changing the name of the materials menu

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 3 16:21:02 CET 2003



A problem type can customize the labels used for "Conditions" , "Materials", "Problem Data" or "Interval Data"
using the tcl procedure GidChangeDataLabel

This is the header of this procedure:
proc GidChangeDataLabel { GidLabel NewLabel {Singular ""} }

GidLabel can be "Conditions" , "Materials", "Problem Data" or "Interval Data"
The third parameter is optional, to specify the singular word

After use this procedure, use the procedure UpdateMenus

for example to use the word "Properties" instead "Materials", use:

GidChangeDataLabel Materials Properties
UpdateMenus


Regards
Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] use RamDebugger

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Mon Jan 6 16:32:02 CET 2003



I use Ramdebugger with gid with succesfull, but there is a file that debug does
not work and tell me: "warning: error! line ??? is not instrumented" what mean?
Advanced thanks
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                  [GiDlist] combobox in tcl-file

Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Tue Jan 7 13:52:01 CET 2003



hi everybody,

I've created a tcl-file for a problemtype that allows me to generate geometric entities from a window called "Geometry" with the procedure "Geometry". I need to create a sort of combobox widget inside this window with three standard values between which the user has to choose. I tried to do that with the listbox widget as described in the standard tcl-documentation, but I couldn't manage to assign the currently selected value of the listbox to a global variable so as to use this information later on in the procedure "Draw". So I had to create three checkbuttons that can be turned on and off, but this solution is  not satisfying, because I don't know how to deselect the other two buttons when one of the checkbuttons is selected. 
This is how looks my tcl-file now:

...
proc Geometrie {} {
    
    global GeometriePriv 
    
    set w .gid.geometrie

    InitWindow $w "Geometrie" GeometryWindow
    
    frame  		$w.title
    label 		$w.title.belastungsArt	-text " Belastungsart "
    
    frame		$w.check
    label 		$w.check.sLt 		-text " schlaffe Last "
    checkbutton 	$w.check.sLcb	 	-variable GeometriePriv(sL)
    label 		$w.check.sPt 		-text " starre Plate "
    checkbutton		$w.check.sPcb	 	-variable GeometriePriv(sP)
    label 		$w.check.ePt 		-text " elastische Platte "
    checkbutton		$w.check.ePcb	 	-variable GeometriePriv(eP)
 
    
    if { $GeometriePriv(sL) } { $w.check.sPcb deselect
    				$w.check.ePcb deselect }
    
    if { $GeometriePriv(sP) } { $w.check.sLcb deselect
    				$w.check.ePcb deselect }
    				
    if { $GeometriePriv(eP) } { $w.check.sLcb deselect
    				$w.check.sPcb deselect }
...

These last if-commands do not work instantly. In fact, what I need is a combobox like the ones implemented in the configuration files with the command:

QUESTION: Belastung#CB#(one,two,three)
VALUE: one

Then I need to store the currently selected value in a variable so I can use it in another procedure.

Can anybody help?

thanks, Andreas




Andreas 
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                              [GiDlist] combobox in tcl-file

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jan 8 12:08:01 CET 2003



You can use a combobox Bwidget (the Bwitgets code is included by default to be used from GiD)
with -textvariable linked to your global variable, for  example:

proc Geometrie {} {    
    global GeometriePriv     
    set w .gid.geometrie
    InitWindow $w "Geometrie" GeometryWindow
    
    set GeometriePriv(Belastungsart)  "three"
    frame  $w.title
    label $w.title.lb -text "Belastungsart" 
    combobox $w.title.combo -editable 0 -textvariable GeometriePriv(Belastungsart)
    $w.title.combo add "one"
    $w.title.combo add "two"
    $w.title.combo add "three"

    button $w.title.but -text "See Value" -command SeeValue
    grid $w.title.lb $w.title.combo
    grid $w.title.but
    grid $w.title
}

proc SeeValue {} {
    global GeometriePriv     
    WarnWin $GeometriePriv(Belastungsart)
}

It is also possible, to separate the showed text from the variable value
(of interest for example in multilingual translations), using -command 
to update the variable value from the combobox and  with a variable value 
trace to update the combobox text

Regards
Enrique Escolano

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                                          [GiDlist] combobox in tcl-file

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jan 8 20:33:02 CET 2003



Sorry,a small bug, in the previous example, the combo widget works ok in GiD, but is not a BWidget (the BWidget does not have the "add" method).

To use the bwidget, instead
    combobox $w.title.combo -editable 0 -textvariable GeometriePriv(Belastungsart)
    $w.title.combo add "one"
    $w.title.combo add "two"
    $w.title.combo add "three" 
use: 
    ComboBox $w.title.combo -editable 0 -textvariable GeometriePriv(Belastungsart) -values {"one" "two" "three"}

Note the upper letters of the "ComboBox" Bwidget command and the -values parameter

Enrique Escolano

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                                                      [GiDlist] How to create a Table in tcl?

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Thu Jan 9 08:57:01 CET 2003



Hi GiD Team
   
   How can we create a Table (somehow like Table in
word or excel) with the tcl/Tk? any one has some
ideas? Please advice.

Warm Regards



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                                                      [GiDlist] How to create a Table in tcl?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jan 9 10:42:01 CET 2003



See the Tktable widget from:

http://tktable.sourceforge.net/

Enrique Escolano

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From: "VSayako Willy" <vilaysako at yahoo.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:56 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] How to create a Table in tcl?


> 
> Hi GiD Team
>    
>    How can we create a Table (somehow like Table in
> word or excel) with the tcl/Tk? any one has some
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                                                      [GiDlist] sharp angle in Tdyn3d

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Fri Jan 10 11:25:02 CET 2003



Hello;
In Ransol demo, i am trying to modelate a wing with diferent section
along the span, so the sharp angle is changing along the span, Tdyn3d
has option about sharp angle to correct velocities in the trailing edge,
is it necesary to mark?, it is necesary what angle i must to entry,??
Advanced thanks
Pablo




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                                                      [GiDlist] sharp angle in Tdyn3d

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 10 17:52:01 CET 2003



Sharp_Angle should be slightly greater than the maximum angle of the
wing. This will apply the correct condition for the whole wing.

Regards
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pablo Perez del Castillo" <pablopdc at terra.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:18 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] sharp angle in Tdyn3d


> Hello;
> In Ransol demo, i am trying to modelate a wing with diferent section
> along the span, so the sharp angle is changing along the span, Tdyn3d
...

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                                                      [GiDlist] sharp angle in Tdyn3d

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Fri Jan 10 18:45:02 CET 2003



Hello again;
I try with and without Sharp_Angle the same wing, and it gets lift and drag
bigger than without S_A, so can you explain me how works this option inside
the solver, or what is the physical sense of this option? (it force the
trailing edge to kutta condition??)
A lot of thanks
Pablo

Enrique Escolano escribió:

> Sharp_Angle should be slightly greater than the maximum angle of the
> wing. This will apply the correct condition for the whole wing.
>
> Regards
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pablo Perez del Castillo" <pablopdc at terra.es...

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                                                      [GiDlist] sharp angle in Tdyn3d

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 10 19:17:02 CET 2003



Sorry, I' unknown this concepts about the problem type Tdyn. I' only known
about GiD.
Try to send your  Tdyn CFD questions to info at compassis.com

Enrique

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From: "Pablo Perez del Castillo" <pablopdc at terra.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] sharp angle in Tdyn3d


> Hello again;
> I try with and without Sharp_Angle the same wing, and it gets lift and
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                  [GiDlist] (no subject)

Send by: simonelazzara77 at libero.it
On: Wed Jan 8 15:38:01 CET 2003



I tried to execute Tdyn from a .bat file and there aren't any problem if I use a coarse mesh, but if I use a finer mesh I can't obtain any result and I obtain an .err file :Ransol module is limited to 10.000 nodes. Why?
I tried to execute the .bch file directly from Gid and it runs perfectly. 
I need to execute Tdyn from .bat file because it is part of an optimization loop, so how can I do?
Regards
Simone





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                  [GiDlist] limitation problems

Send by: simonelazzara77 at libero.it
On: Wed Jan 8 15:40:02 CET 2003



I tried to execute Tdyn from a .bat file and there aren't any problem if I use a coarse mesh, but if I use a finer mesh I can't obtain any result and I obtain an .err file :Ransol module is limited to 10.000 nodes. Why?
I tried to execute the .bch file directly from Gid and it runs perfectly. 
I need to execute Tdyn from .bat file because it is part of an optimization loop, so how can I do?
Regards
Simone





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                              [GiDlist] troubles when execute gid

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Thu Jan 16 15:41:02 CET 2003



Hola;
Estaba calculando con tdyn3d, cerre el programa de gid, pero deje calculando el tdyn3d, accidentalmente me finalizaron la tarea de tdyn3d y ahora cada vez trato de usar Gid, me sale un aviso de que el "proceso de calculo
finalizo", le doy ok y directamente me da un error de gid.exe. Como puedo evitar esto, hetratado de buscar el archivo que almacena esto pero no hay manera.
Muchas gracias.
Pablo




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                                          [GiDlist] troubles when execute gid

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jan 16 16:01:01 CET 2003



La información de que el proceso de tdyn estaba corriendo en el momento de
salir de GiD se almacena en
el fichero "gid.ini".
Este fichero puede estar situado en diferentes ubicaciones según sea WinNT,
2000, etc.
Por ejemplo en Win2000 está en:
C:Documents and Settings<usuario.maquina>Datos de programaGiDgid.ini
(donde <usuario.maquina> depende de tu nombre de usuario de la sesion y del
nombre de tu ordenador)

Si no lo encuentras fácilmente, haz una búsqueda de gid.ini desde el
explorador de ficheros.

Una vez encontrado, puedes probar a editarlo y quitar la línea referente a
tu proceso pendiente, o si no lo ves claro
puedes borrar el fichero (sólamente perderas algunas preferencias sin
importancia),  GiD lo volverá a crear automáticamente.

Enrique Escolano

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Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Thu Jan 16 17:13:01 CET 2003



muchas gracias Enrique

Enrique Escolano escribió:

> La información de que el proceso de tdyn estaba corriendo en el momento de
> salir de GiD se almacena en
> el fichero "gid.ini".
> Este fichero puede estar situado en diferentes ubicaciones según sea WinNT,
> 2000, etc.
> Por ejemplo en Win2000 está en:
> C:Documents and Settings<usuario.maquina>Datos de programaGiDgid.ini
> (donde <usuario.maquina> depende de tu nombre de usuario de la sesion y del
> nombre de tu ordenador)
>
> Si no lo encuentras fácilmente, haz una búsqueda de gid.ini desde el
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                  [GiDlist] limitation problems

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Jan 8 17:54:02 CET 2003



Every time a .bat is executed, GiD changes the current
directory to the current working project, and copies
there the 'password.txt' file ( which should be inside the
problemtype Tdyn.gid), so that when the Tdyn.exe is called
from the .bat batch file it finds the password.

If you run the .bat directly, you have to copy this
file by hand. Remember to enter also the rest of the arguments
to the .bat file.

miguel



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                              [GiDlist] Coordinates of the direction of observation

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Jan 9 11:34:01 CET 2003



Hi,
It should be a good option for the next generation of GID.

Could you tell me what means the v rotation vector

Thank you,

G.W.R.Geis


"Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> what is you idea?
> no in a direct way. but, you can get the view parameters through the
> 'View->View->Save' menu option which writes an ASCII file the
> real-world-3D-window limits, the rotation vector, the rotation matrix
> and the center of the figure. we can find a way to make it possible and
> usable for future versions, including the drawing of some simple 3D objects
...

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                              [GiDlist] Elements connected to a node

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Jan 9 13:43:02 CET 2003



Dear All,

Has somebody a response about how to find the elements (Triangle)
connected to a node ?

Thank you

G.W.R.Geis




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                                          [GiDlist] Elements connected to a node

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Thu Jan 9 14:13:02 CET 2003



   Hello,

   The answer to this question is very simple if you are ready to use
TCL:

    foreach "num x y z" [.central.s info Mesh Nodes] {
	set nodes($num) [list $x $y $z]
    }
    foreach "num n1 n2 n3 mat" [.central.s info Mesh Elements Triangle] {
	set trielms($num) [list $n1 $n2 $n3 $mat]
	lappend trinodeselms($n1) $num
	lappend trinodeselms($n2) $num
	lappend trinodeselms($n3) $num
    }

    and trinodeselms will give you all the triangles around one node.

    Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribó
http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com...

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                  [GiDlist] GID crash

Send by: Billy Fälth
On: Fri Jan 10 12:38:01 CET 2003



Hello
I am using GID 7.2 on Win XP and NVIDIA GeForce 3 Ti200 graphic card. I
rather often (several time per day) get problems when using GID as
postprocessor. Suddenly I can not reach the top menus. They just don’t
show up when I pick them, but the buttons in the window are still
working. The only way I have figured out to solve the problem is to
leave post process mode and then go back again. After that the program
works well until next crash. It seems not to be any coupling between
this problem and some special commands I give. The same problem was in
GID 7.1. Is this a known problem? Is there some thing to do about it?
 
Thank you
/BF
 
Billy Fälth
Clay Technology AB
Ideon Research Center
S 223 70 Lund, SWEDEN
Tel +46 46 286 25 81
Fax +46 46 13 42 30
www.claytech.se <...

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                              [GiDlist] GID crash

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Jan 10 15:10:02 CET 2003



Does this happens with different models?
can you send as, or directly to me, an exmaple and its commands sequence
so we can reproduce the problem?
can you send us also your gid.ini, usually located under 'Document and Settings'...
or 'Windows'?
Which driver version are you using (Screen or Monitor properties, configuration
panel, 'advanced settings' button, 'GeForce3 Ti200' panel, version information listbox)?
are you using the latest whql certified drivers, v. x.x.x.4072?

miguel
| 
| Hello
| 
| I am using GID 7.2 on Win XP and NVIDIA GeForce 3 Ti200 graphic card. I rather often (several
...

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                  [GiDlist] trouble in calculate volumen with ACIS import

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Mon Jan 13 19:11:02 CET 2003



Hello;
I have troubles in calculate volumen with gid, it is imported throught
ACIS, the volumen it would be 117.875 u3, and Gid gives  235.94 u3, it
is the same with every import file.
Advanced thanks,
Pablo
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End-of-ACIS-data
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                              [GiDlist] trouble in calculate volumen with ACIS import

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jan 13 19:59:01 CET 2003



If the volume is calculated in GiD from the geometric model, then the volume
is 235.9 u3,
and if you generate a mesh of tetrahedras, and list in GiD the volume of
this tetrahedras, the value obtained
for a mesh of 20.000 linear elements is 235.4 u3

Enrique

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Perez del Castillo" <pablopdc at terra.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:04 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] trouble in calculate volumen with ACIS import


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                                          [GiDlist] Where Can I find the "Proc" for table in GiD

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Tue Jan 14 02:43:01 CET 2003



Hi Enrique
   Thanks for your prompt advice. As you advised me to
look at some website of the database using Tcl/Tk, I
didn't get any information of that. What I would like
to do is some kind like what you have done in GiD. For
example the table created by the following GiD
commands:
-------------------------------------------------------
QUESTION:Dynamic_Load_Curve:(TMIN,TMAX,A1,A2,A3,A4,A5)
VALUE:#N# 7 0. 10. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
-------------------------------------------------------
Where is the "proc" of this command located? I just
would like to take a look as for a reference for my
future making simple table.

Warm regards.



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                                                      [GiDlist] Where Can I find the "Proc" for table in GiD

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jan 14 15:26:02 CET 2003



The "table" created in GiD for a material/condition command as
QUESTION:Dynamic_Load_Curve:(TMIN,TMAX,A1,A2,A3,A4,A5)
VALUE:#N# 7 0. 10. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
is created inside GiD using standard TK widgets: A frame with some buttons, entrys and scrollbars.
You can see the code as sample inside "scriptsDataWindows.tcl": procedures DWFillText and DWVarValueWin, ...
but this procedures are not ready to use for another programmers.

You can download the tcl code for a good "table" widget: Tktable at
http://tktable.sourceforge.net/

Copy only the basic required files inside your problemtype directory to use it with GiD.

I' attach a sample of problemtype using this widget Tktable (using the version 2.7, 
compiled for Windows and Linux). This is a image of this sample problem type:



The documentation, source and another samples of Tktable 2.8 can be downloaded from ...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Where Can I find the "Proc" for table in GiD

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Tue Jan 14 16:15:02 CET 2003



You can also try the pure tcl/tk implementation of the widget Tablelist, 
wich you can find at
http://www.nemethi.de/

best regards,

Jorge Suit

Enrique Escolano wrote:

> The "table" created in GiD for a material/condition command as
> QUESTION:Dynamic_Load_Curve:(TMIN,TMAX,A1,A2,A3,A4,A5)
> VALUE:#N# 7 0. 10. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
> is created inside GiD using standard TK widgets: A frame with some 
> buttons, entrys and scrollbars.
> You can see the code as sample inside "scriptsDataWindows.tcl": 
> procedures DWFillText and DWVarValueWin, ...
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                                                      [GiDlist] table in GiD!!! Many Thanks for the Info.

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Wed Jan 15 03:06:02 CET 2003



Hi.
Many thanks to Enrique and Ronda for the information.

Regards.

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                                                      [GiDlist] Background Mesh option is not working

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Wed Jan 29 04:17:01 CET 2003



Hi Enrique
   Thanks for your advice. I have tried as your
comments but it didn't workout. No mesh seen on the
screen.


Regards.

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                                                      [GiDlist] Background Mesh option is not working

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jan 29 16:18:01 CET 2003



To show the backgroundmesh and your sizes, use Meshing->DrawSizes (available
in GiD 7.2)

Notes:
- You must assign size to all elements or nodes, else the value for
unassigned elements is -1
- If you assign sizes to elements the value is extrapolated to the nodes
with a mean value, it is best to assign directly the
  desired sizes.
If you generate the mesh with your background sizes  (0.02 for the elem 32,
and 0.01 in the rest of elems), then are generated over 1.000.000 of
elements

This options of assign sizes with a background mesh is quite recent, and
still they can appear some problems.
We are working in this improvements, any error, warning or suggestions on
the matter well will be received.

Regards
Enrique
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                                                      [GiDlist] Some technique in bas file? dealing with data in xxx.cnd file

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Wed Mar 5 06:23:01 CET 2003



Hi Enrique and all GiDlisters

   Silly question again! I would like to get your
advice as the following matter.
In my xxx.cnd file I created the fields as simple
example as:

NUMBER: 1 CONDITION:Properties
CONDTYPE: over lines
CONDMESHTYPE: over elements
QUESTION:Ix
VALUE:0.0
QUESTION:Iy
VALUE:0.0
...
...
and more propertis
END CONDITIONS

Let assume I have 10 beam elements on the problem and
want to assign 3 different properties.

In the usual way of writing xxx.bas file we can get
the results easily as the following format:
*set Cond Property
*loop elems *OnlyIncond
*elemsNum *Cond(Ix) *Cond(Iy) *Cond(..) .....and more
*end elems
The data file should look like this: (for example)
--------------------------------------------------
Mem   Ix        Iy        Gx      Gy      As
1   1253.00    2563.00    ....    ....    .....
2   1589.23    4356.23    ....    ....    ....
3   1589.23    4356.23    ....    ....    ....
4   1253.00    2563.00    ....    ....    ....
5   1253.00    2563.00    . 
6   2356.45    8962.45   
7   2356.45    8962.45
8   1253.00    2563.00
9   1253.00    2563.00
10  1253.00    2563.00    ....    .....    .....
----------------------------------------------------
As seen above the 3 different properties have been
used but the data are rewritten again and again.

Now, I would like to have the data come out as the
following format: 
-------------------------------------------------------
Properties (This one is not convinient on xxx.mat
file)
set    Ix        Iy       Gx     Gy     As   .......
1   1253.00     2563.00   ....   ...   ...  
2   2356.45     8962.45   ....   ...   ...
3   1589.23     4356.23   ...    ...   ...
Assign to element. This will be written with element
connectivities.
Mem   set
1     1
2     3
3     3
4     1
5     1
6     2
7     2
8     1
9     1
10    1
----------------------------------------------------
Can we arrange this obove data on bas file with some
technique? As I have done: I created the Property on
the xxx.prb file then created the assign property in
xxx.cnd
but it seems so inconvinient.. 

Any good advice please.

Best regards.






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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Mar 5 12:29:02 CET 2003



You can use as a condition field a "pointer" to a material #MAT# (only of some book if desired)
Note: See the Nastran problem type.

for example:
CONDITION: Property
CONDTYPE: over lines
CONDMESHTYPE: over elements
QUESTION: Composition#MAT#(Beam)
VALUE: IPN_200
...
END CONDITION

This type of material not must be assigned to any entity. The problemtype NASTRAN uses some tcl code to 
modify the materials window to deactivate the user assignation for this book.

BOOK: Beam
MATERIAL: IPN_200
QUESTION: Identifier
VALUE: 1
STATE: hidden
QUESTION: Ix
VALUE: 3e5
...
END MATERIAL

If the user creates a new material derived from this, then it automatically appears inside the condition field.

Note the use of a hidden field "Identifier" to identify this type of materials inside the bas file (add this field to all materials)

*#write only the properties of the materials with Identifier==1
*#by default the loop materials visit the assigned materials, note *NotUset to visit the unasigned
*set Cond Property
 *loop elems *OnlyIncond
  *elemsNum *Cond(Composition)
*end elems

*loop materials *NotUsed
*if(MatProp(Identifier,int)==1)
  *MatProp(0) *MatProp(Ix,real) ...
*endif
*end materials

Regards
Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] Sorry, no trouble in calculate volumen with ACIS import

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Mon Jan 13 19:33:01 CET 2003



sorry, i have no troubles, i had a mistake, only computed the half
volumen to check
Pablo




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                  [GiDlist] GID 7.2 problems with TECPLOT input

Send by: D.M. Lipinski
On: Thu Jan 16 22:14:01 CET 2003



Dear All,
I'm having problems with reading TECPLOT files into GID (Ver.7.2). Even the
simplest TECPLOT data set fails to read correctly. To illustrate my problem
here's a simple two-element (hexahedral) data set in TECPLOT FE format (the
data file is also attached to this email).

TITLE = "Sample data set"
VARIABLES = "X", "Y", "Z", "Value"
ZONE T="Sample 2 hex elements" N=   12, E=   2, F=FEPOINT, ET=BRICK
 0.0   0.0   0.0   1.0
 1.0   0.0   0.0   3.0
 1.0   1.0   0.0   4.0
 0.0   1.0   0.0   2.0
 0.0   0.0   1.0   1.5
 1.0   0.0   1.0   3.5
 1.0   1.0   1.0   4.5
 0.0   1.0   1.0   2.5
 2.0   0.0   0.0   6.0
 2.0   1.0   0.0   8.0
 2.0   0.0   1.0   9.0
 2.0   1.0   1.0  12.0

 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 2  9 10  3  6 11 12  7

This file reads in correctly into TECPLOT Ver. 9.2 (see the attached gif
files Tecplot_grid.gif and Tecplot_values.gif), but it reads incorrectly
into GID (see the GID_input file). GID somehow misses the last nodal point
12. Instead it connects all the edges going to the node 12 with the node 1.

I'm new to GID, perhaps I'm doing something wrong; please advice.

with regards

M.Lipinski
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Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Jan 17 13:39:01 CET 2003



Yes, you're right, there is a bug in GiD while reading bricks in
tecplot format ( it doesn't read the seventh node).
solved for the next version

miguel

> "D.M. Lipinski" wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm having problems with reading TECPLOT files into GID (Ver.7.2). Even the simplest TECPLOT data set fails to read correctly. To
> illustrate my problem here's a simple two-element (hexahedral) data set in TECPLOT FE format (the data file is also attached to
> this email).
> 
> TITLE = "Sample data set"
> VARIABLES = "X", "Y", "Z", "Value"
...

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                  [GiDlist] Data link between two different dialogboxes

Send by: Ravish Masti
On: Fri Jan 17 15:18:01 CET 2003



Hello!

Could you please suggest a method to incorporate the following features in a GID project.

1a) Adding a new submenu (for ex. under GID's main menu "Data") and associate with it the general dailogbox interface features similar to the one currently available with the "Materials" submenu. 
1b) Is it possible to easily have with this new submenu, a user-defined special fields similar in action to the  a_field_name#MAT#(book_name) available for "Materials" submenu? 
 
2)How to link between two different submenu dialog boxes for data updating of a field?  To explain this with an example, an entry value for a field "propertyID" in a dialogbox is to be updated in another dialogbox using a field "property_list" keeping a list of "propertyID"s info.    This operation is to an extent resembles data updating possible with the special field a_field_name#MAT#(book_name). 

Thanking you for your suggestions.

With best wishes,
Ravish
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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 17 19:33:01 CET 2003



1a) Read this previous response of the GiDlist archives about add a new submenu:

 http://gid.cimne.com/pipermail/gidlist/2002/000908.html

1b) You can ask GID about the current list of materials with a ".central.s info materials" GiD/tcl order, and fill with 
this information the -values of a "ComboBox" or another similar widget

See this archive and the next about the use of a ComboBox widget:
http://gid.cimne.upc.es/pipermail/gidlist/2003/001123.html

2) You can define a global variable, and use a trace to call a procedure to update the fields

for example, this trace call the proc UpdateFields if the value of MyVars(PropID) is set

global MyVars
trace var MyVars(PropID) w "UpdateFields ;#"

proc UpdateFields { }  {
  global MyVars
   #set the parameter "-text" for example of your widget with the current value of MyVars(PropID)
   ...
 
} 

Some witgets have a parameter "-variable" or "-textvariable" to link automatically the widget value to a variable

Regards

Enrique Escolano
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                  [GiDlist] Re: write file problem

Send by: Thomas Chan
On: Fri Jan 17 21:36:02 CET 2003



Hi GiD staff,

I'm working on a *.tcl file and I'm trying to write a file into the 
problemtype folder.  Here my line of code:

...
set fid [open /Programs/GidWin6.3.0b/problemtypes/FEM.gid/$projname.par w]
puts $fid [ ... ]
close $fid
...

For some reason it keeps appending "My current GiD project directory" at 
the end of "My desired directory".  Why?  Is there a way to write a file 
into a different directory?  My current GiD project is at 
d:programsGiDWin6.3.0b.  Here is a screen capture of my error box.

Pls advice, thanks!
Tom

1606ee58.jpg



Thomas Chan
R&D Engineer
EMAG Technologies, Inc.
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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 17 22:23:02 CET 2003



1) You can use the global variable GIDDEFAULT to locate the GiD directory 
(a relative path is important if you move your problemtype to another machine)

2) Your variable projname contain the full path (d:programsGidWin6.3.0b	ests), 
use file tail to obtain only the last filename (tests):

3) if projname contain blank spaces for example is not valid the order 
open a/b/$projname w
because open expects two parameters, not more.

This is a corrected code:

global GIDDEFAULT
set filename [file join $GIDDEFAULT problemtypes FEM.gid [file tail $projname].par]
set fid [open $filename w]
if { !$fid } {
  WarnWin "Error, file '$filename' cannot be open"
  return
}
...

Regards

Enrique Escolano

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                                          [GiDlist] Can GiD generate the mesh based on the Error estimation

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Wed Jan 22 03:24:02 CET 2003



Hi GiD team
   I'm now working also on "Error Estimation" and want
to use GiD generate (or add) the new mesh based upon
the Error estimation on that element (Triangular
element).

Please Look over on the attached file.


Best regards.

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                                                      [GiDlist] Can GiD generate the mesh based on the Error estimation

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jan 22 11:53:02 CET 2003



For this pourposes, it exists in GiD the concept of "mesh size assignation
by background mesh"
Your analysis calculate a new node or element desired size, based on the
error estimation, and write this information
in a "background mesh" file. GiD read this file and the new mesh is
generated based on this sizes.
Now it's possible to assign sizes using a background mesh of triangles or
tetrahedrons. The background mesh must cover all the domain (usually the
background mesh will be a previous mesh of the same model).

To load this "background mesh" file use the menu
Meshing->Assign Unstructured Sizes->Background Mesh...
If you load a background mesh, you can visualize the sizes (as points,
filled elemens or spheres) to detect bugs:
Meshing->Draw Sizes->BackgroundMesh

Background mesh file example:

BackgroundMesh V 1.0
MESH dimension 2 ElemType Triangle Nnode 3
Coordinates
 1 5.61705 4.81504 0.00000
 ...
 51 -5.64191 -1.53335 0.00000
end coordinates
Elements
 1 24 16 26
 2 16 10 14
...
 76 34 31 28
end elements
DesiredSize Nodes
 1 0.20
 2 0.25
...
 51 1.5
End DesiredSize

Regards

Enrique Escolano

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                              [GiDlist] Re: write file problem

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Mon Jan 20 12:07:01 CET 2003



    Hello,

   You probably want something like:

   set fid [open /Programs/GidWin6.3.0b/problemtypes/FEM.gid/[file tail
$projname].par w]

    Probably, you do not want to use and absolute path for writing a file.
Doing so, you will not be able to use your
software in any other computer installation.

    An additional trick that can be useful to someone is that, when a TCL
error window appears, you can press
middle mouse button over the window and more information will be displayed
about the error.

   Regards,
--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribó
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Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Thu Jan 23 22:25:03 CET 2003



Hi everybody,

I am working on the embeddement of a solver called dyn3D (for geotechnical dynamics analysis) into the preprocessor of gid. The solver has three different calculation modules which demand different input data. I have created the configuration files and a tcl-file. When a new project is created within gid ( by choosing the problemtype "dyn3D"), the tcl-file makes a window pop up in which the calculation module can be selected by the user. The selection is stored in a global variable within the tcl procedure and is used in other procedures to specify the menu and the symbols that appear in the gid window. That works fine as long as this global variable is defined. But if I save a project and reopen that project later on, the variable is lost or is set to a standard value. So either the tcl file cannot be interpreted by gid or the wrong values are read. 
What I would need to do is to save the global variables values in a file within the project directory so it can be read whenever the project is opened within gid. Does anybody have a clue if that is possible?

Thanks for response, Andreas
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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 24 10:21:02 CET 2003



It exists two tcl procedures called by GiD if the user save or load a model (similar to InitGIDProject)
This procedures are

proc LoadGIDProject { filespd } {
  #open the file 'filespd' to read specific problemtype data
}
proc SaveGIDProject { filespd } {
  #open the file 'filespd' to save specific problemtype data
}

LoadGIDProject: will be called when a GiD project is loaded. It receives the filespd argument, which is the path of the file which is being opened, but with a .spd extension (specific problemtype data). This path can be useful if you want to write specific information of the problem type in a new file.
for example, if the model is saved in "c:/public/mymodel.gid" then filespd="c:/public/mymodel.gid/mymodel.spd"

SaveGIDProject: will be called when the current opened file is saved to disk. It receives the filespd argument, which is the path of the file which is being saved, but with a .spd extension (specific problemtype data). This path can be useful if you want to write specific information of the problem type in a new file.

Note: If you read a model with a problemtype assigned, then first is called InitGIDProject, and after LoadGIDProject

If you select a new problemtype, then LoadGIDProject is also called, with the parameter filespd set to the problemtype path and .spd extension (for example, in your case filespd="c:/GiD7.2/problemtypes/dyn3D/dyn3D.spd")

Regards
Enrique Escolano

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  From: Andreas Friedberg 
  To: GiD mailinglist 
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:39 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] (no subject)


  Hi everybody,

  I am working on the embeddement of a solver called dyn3D (for geotechnical dynamics analysis) into the preprocessor of gid. The solver has three different calculation modules which demand different input data. I have created the configuration files and a tcl-file. When a new project is created within gid ( by choosing the problemtype "dyn3D"), the tcl-file makes a window pop up in which the calculation module can be selected by the user. The selection is stored in a global variable within the tcl procedure and is used in other procedures to specify the menu and the symbols that appear in the gid window. That works fine as long as this global variable is defined. But if I save a project and reopen that project later on, the variable is lost or is set to a standard value. So either the tcl file cannot be interpreted by gid or the wrong values are read. 
  What I would need to do is to save the global variables values in a file within the project directory so it can be read whenever the project is opened within gid. Does anybody have a clue if that is possible?

  Thanks for response, Andreas
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Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Thu Jan 23 22:42:01 CET 2003



Hi everybody,

I would like to know if it is possible to use an external mesher in gid. What I need to do is to write some information (about the geometry that I have stored in global variables through procedures in the tcl file) to a file *.in, then feed an external mesher with that file and read the output file of the mesher into the gid preprocessor. I would like to automate this process through the tcl file so that I can trigger it in the graphical interface of gid. 
Is that possible?

Thanks for response, Andreas

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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jan 24 11:16:01 CET 2003



If you generate externally a mesn then GiD can import a mesh in GiD mesh Ascii, NASTRAN or STL format
(menu Files->Import)

It is also possible to run GiD in batch mode without open graphical windows to generate a mesh
gid -b "batchfile" -n
(see help on invoking GiD and batch file)

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andreas Friedberg 
  To: GiD mailinglist 
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:39 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] (no subject)


  Hi everybody,

  I would like to know if it is possible to use an external mesher in gid. What I need to do is to write some information (about the geometry that I have stored in global variables through procedures in the tcl file) to a file *.in, then feed an external mesher with that file and read the output file of the mesher into the gid preprocessor. I would like to automate this process through the tcl file so that I can trigger it in the graphical interface of gid. 
  Is that possible?

  Thanks for response, Andreas

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Send by: Mills, Jeff B.
On: Thu Jan 23 22:55:02 CET 2003



Hi:
 
 I am interested in your application.
 
Can you please send me some info on it's proposed use and availability/
 
 JM

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Friedberg [mailto:andreasfriedberg at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:40 PM
To: GiD mailinglist
Subject: [GiDlist] (no subject)


Hi everybody,
 
I am working on the embeddement of a solver called dyn3D (for geotechnical
dynamics analysis) into the preprocessor of gid. The solver has three
different calculation modules which demand different input data. I have
created the configuration files and a tcl-file. When a new project is created
within gid ( by choosing the problemtype "dyn3D"), the tcl-file makes a
window pop up in which the calculation module can be selected by the user.
The selection is stored in a global variable within the tcl procedure and is
used in other procedures to specify the menu and the symbols that appear in
the gid window. That works fine as long as this global variable is defined.
But if I save a project and reopen that project later on, the variable is
lost or is set to a standard value. So either the tcl file cannot be
interpreted by gid or the wrong values are read. 
What I would need to do is to save the global variables values in a file
within the project directory so it can be read whenever the project is opened
within gid. Does anybody have a clue if that is possible?
 
Thanks for response, Andreas

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Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Mon Jan 27 23:28:02 CET 2003



Hi Enrique,

thanks for your quick response. I have implemtented the creation of a *.spd-file in the LoadGiDProject-procedure.

I need to use an external mesher from within gid and I want to automate the creation of the input file and the execution of the external mesher in a tcl procedure within the tcl file of my problemtype. What I need to do is following:

1) create in the project directory an input file called *.in for the mesher out of some data stored in global variables
2) move that input file to the problemtype directory where the mesher is
3) feed the input file into the mesher
4) move the output file of the mesher and the input file back to the project directory
5) read that output file into gid

My problem is that I don't know how to create an input file with the extension .in within the project directory, as the pathname of that directory always changes with the name of the project. What I need is something like the filespd-argument, but for a file called *.in.
Can I use the tcl-command exec to run a subprocess for the creation of the mesh file with the external mesher?

thanks for response, Andreas
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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jan 28 11:33:02 CET 2003



proc InitGIDProject { dir } {
    global MyVarsPriv
    #store the problemtype path inside a global variable
    set MyVarsPriv(DirProblemType) $dir

}

proc ExternalMesher { } {
  #for example, your own variables are stored in a array named MyVarsPriv
  global MyVarsPriv
  set projectname [lindex [.central.s info project] 1]
  set filename $projectname.in
  set fout [open $filename w]
  #write your data in the file with the tcl command puts
  #puts $fout $MyVarsPriv(Param) 
  close $fout

  #copy this file from the model directory to the problemtype directory
  set copyfilename [file join $MyVarsPriv(DirProblemType) [file tail $filename]]
  file copy $filename $copyfilename

  #run the external mesher, for example named "Mesher.exe" whit the input file as parameter
  set mesher [file join $MyVarsPriv(DirProblemType) Mesher.exe]
  exec $mesher $copyfilename
  
  #copy the output , named for example out.msh from the problemtype directory to the model directory
  file copy [file join $MyVarsPriv(DirProblemType) out.msh] $projectname.msh
  #read the mesh file (if it is in ASCII GiD mesh format) inside GiD
  .central.s process escape escape escape escape Files MeshRead $projectname.msh
}

Note: Instead copy the .in file inside the problemtype directory, it is best to call directly the mesher from the model directory
(It is possible that your user cannot have write permission inside the problemtype directory, but you can write inside your model directory).

  cd [file dirname $filename]
  set mesher [file join $MyVarsPriv(DirProblemType) Mesher.exe]
  exec $mesher $filename
  file rename out.msh $projectname.msh


Note: InitGIDProject, .central.s process and .central.s info are specific GiD/tcl commands, 
the rest of code is standard tcl language.

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andreas Friedberg 
  To: GiD mailinglist 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:42 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] using external mesher


  Hi Enrique,

  thanks for your quick response. I have implemtented the creation of a *.spd-file in the LoadGiDProject-procedure.

  I need to use an external mesher from within gid and I want to automate the creation of the input file and the execution of the external mesher in a tcl procedure within the tcl file of my problemtype. What I need to do is following:

  1) create in the project directory an input file called *.in for the mesher out of some data stored in global variables
  2) move that input file to the problemtype directory where the mesher is
  3) feed the input file into the mesher
  4) move the output file of the mesher and the input file back to the project directory
  5) read that output file into gid

  My problem is that I don't know how to create an input file with the extension .in within the project directory, as the pathname of that directory always changes with the name of the project. What I need is something like the filespd-argument, but for a file called *.in.
  Can I use the tcl-command exec to run a subprocess for the creation of the mesh file with the external mesher?

  thanks for response, Andreas
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Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Wed Jan 29 14:18:02 CET 2003



Hi Enrique,

thanks for your advice. The creation of the input file for the external 
mesher works fine. But I have a problem with the execution of the external 
mesher. When I try to execute the mesher from within a tcl procedure, I get 
an error message. It seems to me that the path to that mesher is wrong, but 
I checked it and couldn't find any fault. Here is the tcl procedure from 
which I want to start the mesher:

proc Vernetzen {w} {

    global NetzPriv
    global GeometriePriv
    global VoreinstellungPriv
    global HalbraumartPriv
    global Projektverzeichnis

    set Projektname [lindex [.central.s info project] 1]

    set Inputdateibis [join [list $Projektname "gid"] .]
    set Inputdatei [join [list $Inputdateibis "D3D_gid_msh.in"] /]

    set 1000 [list $GeometriePriv(afx) $GeometriePriv(afy) 
$GeometriePriv(lax) $GeometriePriv(lay) $GeometriePriv(bx) 
$GeometriePriv(by)]
    set 1010 [list $NetzPriv(aex) $NetzPriv(aey)]
    set 1020 [list $NetzPriv(aebx) $NetzPriv(aeby)]

    set channel [open $Inputdatei w]

    puts $channel "! Input-File für das Programmsystem D3D ab Version 3.200"
    puts $channel ":0000 ! Titel"
    puts $channel "Netzausgabe für GiD"
    puts $channel "!"
    puts $channel ":0010 ! BerechnungsArt"

    if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " schlaffe_Last " } {

    	 puts $channel "1" }

    if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " starre_Platte " } {

    	 puts $channel "2" }

    if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " elastische_Platte " } {

    	 puts $channel "3" }

    puts $channel "!"
    puts $channel ":1000 ! AnzFlaeche_x AnzFlaeche_y Abstand_x Abstand_y 
Breite_x Breite_y"
    puts $channel $1000
    puts $channel "!"
    puts $channel ":1010 ! Elementierung der Platte: PlatTlgX PlatTlgY"
    puts $channel $1010
    puts $channel "!"
    puts $channel ":1020 ! Teilung in Bodenelemente: x-Richtung y-Richtung"
    puts $channel $1020
    puts $channel "!"
    puts $channel ":1099 ! Abstand_z"
    puts $channel $NetzPriv(afb)
    puts $channel "!"

    close $channel

    set KopierInputdatei [file join $Projektverzeichnis [file tail 
$Inputdatei]]

    file delete $KopierInputdatei
    file copy $Inputdatei $KopierInputdatei

    set Mesher [file join $Projektverzeichnis D3D_gid_msh.exe]

    file attributes $Mesher -shortname

    WarnWinText $Mesher
    WarnWinText $KopierInputdatei

    exec $Mesher
    #...
   }

Here is where I get the error message.
I also tried to execute the mesher with the following line:

    exec $Mesher $KopierInputdatei

but I got the same error message.
The error message reads as follows:

    C:ProgrammeGiDGiD7.2D3D_gid_msh.in
    Image     PC
    Routine   Line
    Source
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    0040F102 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    0040EF03 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    0040E0C4 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    0040E33E Unknown Unknown Unknown
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    00406565 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    00401806 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    004011D2 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    D3D_gid_msh.exe
    00431809 Unknown

The path that is indicated at the beginning of the error message doesn't 
exist, because I didn't copy or create the input file for the mesher 
(D3D_gid_msh.in) in the directory of gid. I don't have any clue what the 
rest of the error message means.

thanks for response,

regards, Andreas



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                              [GiDlist] execution of external mesher

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jan 29 17:00:02 CET 2003



If you have installed tcl/tk (can download from http://tcl.activestate.com)
, the you can open a
tcl/tk console (Whish or tkcon) to try to run outside GiD with exec your
program.

Your code always try to read from a file named "D3D_gid_msh.in" located in
the same directory as D3D_gid_msh.exe?
It is best to expect from your code the filename as command line parameter,
else cannot be used "exec $Mesher $KopierInputdatei"

Enrique

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                  [GiDlist] Diagonals ...

Send by: Alisson P. Chaves
On: Wed Jan 29 18:16:01 CET 2003



Hello all,

I'm needing to generate meshes with triangular elements using 
different diagonal options. Is it possible to make meshes in the 
"Union Jack" style, with diagonals in different senses in the GiD ?
Thanks!
Best regards,
alisson
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MSc. student
Department of Structural Engineering
Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais
Av. do Contorno 842 - 2o. andar
30110-060   Belo Horizonte, MG, Brasil
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                              [GiDlist] Diagonals ...

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jan 29 21:43:01 CET 2003



It is not possible to control the diagonals of the generated triangles.
If your geometry is simple, you can create the surfaces, using copy, etc,
with the final shape
of the desired mesh, and generate after only a element for each surface.

Enrique
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To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:58 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Diagonals ...


> Hello all,
>
> I'm needing to generate meshes with triangular elements using
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                  [GiDlist] renumbering of mesh

Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Tue Feb 4 21:38:01 CET 2003



Hi Enrique,

thanks for your advice about the external mesher, everything works fine now. I have another question: Is it possible to renumber a mesh created with the gid-mesher through a tcl procedure in a specified way? I would like to use the gid mesher, but I need to assign the numbers of the nodes in a certain way, depending on the coordinates of the nodes (I only use structured 2D-meshes). Is that possible? I tried to do it with the command "renumber", but I can't control the assignement of the nodes numbering. Could I do that within a tcl procedure?

I have another question: what format does the preprocess mesh file (*.msh) of gid have? It is obviously not text-formatted as the postprocess mesh file (*.flavia.msh).

thanks for your response,

Andreas Friedberg
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                              [GiDlist] renumbering of mesh

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Feb 4 23:20:02 CET 2003



It not exist any tcl/GiD command to force a node number.
The automatic renumber set an automatic numeration finding a low matrix bandwidth for the analysis.

To force a "special numeration" it is possible to get from tcl a list with the nodes and elements of the GiD mesh:
set elems [.central.s info mesh elements linear]
set nodes [.central.s info mesh nodes]
Then renumber the tcl list of nodes with the own criteria, and write a mesh ASCII file in a temporary file, 
# renumber ...
# set filename [file join $env(TMP) mymesh.tmp]
# if this filename exists, then use another name as mymesh-1.tmp, mymesh-2.tmp, etc.
# set fout [open $filename w]
# write the mesh ...
# close $filename
then delete the current mesh:
.central.s process escape escape escape escape meshing cancelmesh yes
Load this mesh file inside GiD, and delete the temporary file.
.central.s process escape escape escape escape files MeshRead "$filename"
file delete $filename

Note:
The preprocess ASCII mesh file format is similar as the postprocess mesh file. See help on Files->Import->GiD mesh
(GiD preprocess save the mesh files in binary format, but it can also read the ASCII format). 
To save the preprocess mesh in ASCII format, can use Files->Export->GiD mesh

Regards

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andreas Friedberg 
  To: GiD mailinglist 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:52 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] renumbering of mesh


  Hi Enrique,

  thanks for your advice about the external mesher, everything works fine now. I have another question: Is it possible to renumber a mesh created with the gid-mesher through a tcl procedure in a specified way? I would like to use the gid mesher, but I need to assign the numbers of the nodes in a certain way, depending on the coordinates of the nodes (I only use structured 2D-meshes). Is that possible? I tried to do it with the command "renumber", but I can't control the assignement of the nodes numbering. Could I do that within a tcl procedure?

  I have another question: what format does the preprocess mesh file (*.msh) of gid have? It is obviously not text-formatted as the postprocess mesh file (*.flavia.msh).

  thanks for your response,

  Andreas Friedberg
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                                          [GiDlist] Question on nastran tcl file and Communicate with GiD

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Wed Feb 5 05:51:02 CET 2003



Hi GiD team
   Nastran.gid is another good example of creating tcl
file using inside GiD where I always learn from that
sources. May I ask you some questions as the
followings:

1. In nassection.tcl file I have cut off some data:

namespace eval sections (
variable section type ""
.......
variable
variable section_data {

R0lGODlhGAAYAKEAADMzMwAAAL6NkMzMzCH+Dk1hZGUgd2l0aCBHSU1QACH5

BAEKAAMALAAAAAAYABgAAAJJnI+py+3fgJwy0KuA2Lx7AWTfyIXJRWKO1EnQ

Wb6LJgSyCN5wrh+02Rv8goYhMbAB9mi8G6uknFFSFBzpExVeR9nLxOJ1EceP
	AgA7 
   }
What kind of data as shown above? Any reasons? does
each  char stands for something? I'm not familiar with
this kind of input data. would you please clarify.

2. Can you give more information about
"TKWIDGET:xxxxxxx:ComunicateWithGiD" and Proc to
communicate with GiD...Should we keep the same format
and order while writing this Proc?

Best regards.

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                                                      [GiDlist] Question on nastran tcl file and Communicate with GiD

Send by: Aleix Valls
On: Wed Feb 5 10:05:02 CET 2003



Hi,

1- This data is a *.gif image in base64 format. If you take a look at
the following line you will see:

variable section [image create photo -data[set section_data]]
 
With this command we will save "section_data" image in variable
"section" in appropriate format to use like an icon for button section
in property window.  
2- More information about TKWIDGET in the attachment

Aleix

Nastran interface developer.

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                                          [GiDlist] localnodes

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Thu Feb 6 18:40:02 CET 2003



Hello
I would like to get connectivities with local nodes, so i try with
conditions over surfaces like:
NUMBER: 2 CONDITION: Surface_Sail
CONDTYPE: over surfaces
CONDMESHTYPE: over body elements
QUESTION: Local_Axes#LA#(-Default-,-Automatic-)
VALUE: -Default-
CANREPEAT: No
END CONDITION
And in the bas file:

*set cond Surface_Sail *elems
*loop elems *OnlyInCond
*elemsnum *localnodes
*end
but Gid tell me "there is no numface"
What is wrong?
Advanced thanks
Pablo
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                                                      [GiDlist] localnodes

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Feb 6 22:13:02 CET 2003



localnodes, is a order to list only the local nodes numeration of a element face with this condition, not all the element conectivities.

For example, to assign a condition over some "edges" of the surface elements 
(the "edges" located over a line) then instead 
CONDTYPE: over surfaces 
CONDMESHTYPE: over body elements 
use
CONDTYPE: over lines 
CONDMESHTYPE: over face elements 


Note: the automatic local axes for this boundary line are different as the local axes for the surface.

Enrique
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                                                      [GiDlist] localnodes

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Thu Feb 6 22:41:02 CET 2003



so, i can not get local nodes numeration in every element, is it?

Enrique Escolano escribió:

> localnodes, is a order to list only the local nodes numeration of a
> element face with this condition, not all the element conectivities.
> For example, to assign a condition over some "edges" of the surface
> elements(the "edges" located over a line) then insteadCONDTYPE: over
> surfacesCONDMESHTYPE: over body elements
> useCONDTYPE: over linesCONDMESHTYPE: over face elements Note: the
> automatic local axes for this boundary line are different as the local
> axes for the surface. Enrique
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                                                      [GiDlist] localnodes

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Feb 6 22:57:02 CET 2003



The local numeration for a triangle of 3 nodes is foreach element: 1 2 3 constant!!
the order *localnodes with a condition over face elements, returns for example 1 2, 2 3, or 3 1 to indicate a "edge"
*globalnodes returns the label number of this localnodes, for example 274 589, 589 948, 948 274

Enrique
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pablo Perez del Castillo 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [GiDlist] localnodes


  so, i can not get local nodes numeration in every element, is it? 
  Enrique Escolano escribió: 

    localnodes, is a order to list only the local nodes numeration of a element face with this condition, not all the element conectivities. For example, to assign a condition over some "edges" of the surface elements(the "edges" located over a line) then insteadCONDTYPE: over surfacesCONDMESHTYPE: over body elements 
    useCONDTYPE: over linesCONDMESHTYPE: over face elements Note: the automatic local axes for this boundary line are different as the local axes for the surface. Enrique 
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                  [GiDlist] formatting in tcl

Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Wed Feb 5 21:19:01 CET 2003



Hi Enrique,

your advice about the renumbering of nodes was very useful.
I have a question about specifying a certain format for floating point and integer values in tcl. I would like to prescribe floating point and integer format for certain values that I need to write into a file. I need also to transform certain integer values into floating point values and vice versa. I tried to figure out the tcl command for these operations, but I couldn't find any except the command format which is used for strings. 
What tcl command allows these operations?

thanks for your response,

Andreas Friedberg
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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Feb 5 22:37:01 CET 2003



The tcl command is format, the format string is any valid C printf format. for example:
format "%lf" 3.5
3.5 must be a float
to truncate a float to a integer use expr to evaluate a mathematical expression:
expr int(3.5)

Enrique
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andreas Friedberg 
  To: GiD mailinglist 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:33 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] formatting in tcl


  Hi Enrique,

  your advice about the renumbering of nodes was very useful.
  I have a question about specifying a certain format for floating point and integer values in tcl. I would like to prescribe floating point and integer format for certain values that I need to write into a file. I need also to transform certain integer values into floating point values and vice versa. I tried to figure out the tcl command for these operations, but I couldn't find any except the command format which is used for strings. 
  What tcl command allows these operations?

  thanks for your response,

  Andreas Friedberg
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                                          [GiDlist] formatting in tcl

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Feb 6 07:52:01 CET 2003



to get a real value from an integer:

for expresions:

set int_value 1234
set res [ expr log( double( $int_value))]

for format, you can do this too:

format "%f" $int_value

miguel

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                  [GiDlist] GiDpost library

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Feb 7 09:28:01 CET 2003



Hello, community,

We've created the 'GiDpost library' http://www.gidhome.com/support/gidpost
GiDpost is a set of functions (library) for writing postprocess results for 
GiD in ASCII ( up version 6.1.4b) or binary format ( up version 7.2).
It works in Windows and Linux.

Feel free to test it and send your comments and suggestions here.

miguel
jorge suit

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                              [GiDlist] Error during Export VRML

Send by: Wuttipum Ittiponsopar
On: Sat Feb 8 10:52:01 CET 2003



Why during i export vrml file with quadratic mesh, it has error message
"Message in line number 8. Error : element are Quadratic." ?
How to fix this problem?

Thank you very much.




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                                          [GiDlist] Error during Export VRML

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Feb 10 11:19:02 CET 2003



This VRML output interface is written to export only line, triangle or quadrilateral linear elements.

You can  modify the template file VRML.bas (located inside /templates directory):

1) comment the lines checking if the mesh is quadratic (add *# at first to comment):
*#*if(isquadratic)
*#*MessageBox Error: elements are Quadratic.
*#*endif

2) Change the word ElemsNnode to ElemsNnodeCurt
(ElemsNnodeCurt return 3 for a triangle linear -3 nodes- or quadratic -6 nodes-)
instead
*for(INODO=1;INODO<=ElemsNnode;INODO=INODO+1)
write
*for(INODO=1;INODO<=ElemsNnodeCurt;INODO=INODO+1)


Note: With this small changes, the quadratic nodes are also written in the vrml file, but the element 
conectivities are written only as linear.

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] problem with bas file

Send by: Andreas Friedberg
On: Sun Feb 9 22:39:01 CET 2003



Hi GiD-Team,

I am writing the template file for a problem type and I have a problem about data storing. I store some values (the user inputs them through a window which is created with a tcl procedure within the tcl file of the problem type) in global variables during the preprocess and I need to temporarily store these values in variables in the template file, so as to decide by these values which data  in the configuration files I have to access to write the input file. 
I tried the *tcl command of the bas file to get the values of the global variables in the tcl file, but the problem with this command is the fact that I cannot store these values but only write them directly into the input file. 

Next is what I have written in the bas file:

*tcl(Belastungsart)

That corresponds to a procedure in the tcl file:

proc Belastungsart {  } {
    global VoreinstellungPriv
    if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " schlaffe_Last " } {
         return { 1 } }
    if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " starre_Platte " } {
         return { 2 } }
    if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " elastische_Platte " } {
         return { 3 } }
    }

What I would need to do is to store the value I get from the tcl procedure with the *tcl command in a variable in the bas file; something like this:

*Set var belastungsart=*tcl(Belastungsart)
...
*if(belastungsart==2)
...
*endif
 
That does not work because the *tcl command is not an arithmetic expression. Is there a possibility to store other data in a variable in the bas file? 
If not, how can I get to temporarily store some gobal variables of the tcl file in the bas file?

thaks for response,

Andreas Friedberg









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                              [GiDlist] problem with bas file

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Feb 10 12:12:02 CET 2003



Now the *tcl writes directly to the output file, but it not returns any value to the "bas" file.

You can write the conditional data also from tcl.

It is possible also some "dark" trick, for example, use a general data field in the *.prb file (can be hidden) to pass 
the value between tcl and the bas file:

*.prb file
QUESTION:Belastungsart:#CB#(schlaffe_Last,starre_Platte,elastische_Platte)
VALUE: schlaffe_Last
STATE: HIDDEN

*.tcl file
proc Belastungsart {  } {
    global VoreinstellungPriv
    .central.s process escape escape escape data problemdata singlefield 
         Belastungsart $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart)
    return
}

*.bas file
*tcl(Belastungsart)
*if(strcmp(GenData(Belastungsart),"schlaffe_Last")==0) 
...

In fact, you can make the problemdata field visible, and it is not necessary a special tcl window to 
input this data, and the aditional tcl proc Belastungsart.

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andreas Friedberg 
  To: GiD mailinglist 
  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:52 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] problem with bas file


  Hi GiD-Team,

  I am writing the template file for a problem type and I have a problem about data storing. I store some values (the user inputs them through a window which is created with a tcl procedure within the tcl file of the problem type) in global variables during the preprocess and I need to temporarily store these values in variables in the template file, so as to decide by these values which data  in the configuration files I have to access to write the input file. 
  I tried the *tcl command of the bas file to get the values of the global variables in the tcl file, but the problem with this command is the fact that I cannot store these values but only write them directly into the input file. 

  Next is what I have written in the bas file:

  *tcl(Belastungsart)

  That corresponds to a procedure in the tcl file:

  proc Belastungsart {  } {
      global VoreinstellungPriv
      if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " schlaffe_Last " } {
           return { 1 } }
      if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " starre_Platte " } {
           return { 2 } }
      if { $VoreinstellungPriv(Belastungsart) == " elastische_Platte " } {
           return { 3 } }
      }

  What I would need to do is to store the value I get from the tcl procedure with the *tcl command in a variable in the bas file; something like this:

  *Set var belastungsart=*tcl(Belastungsart)
  ...
  *if(belastungsart==2)
  ...
  *endif
   
  That does not work because the *tcl command is not an arithmetic expression. Is there a possibility to store other data in a variable in the bas file? 
  If not, how can I get to temporarily store some gobal variables of the tcl file in the bas file?

  thaks for response,

  Andreas Friedberg









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                                                [GiDlist] problem with bas file

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Feb 20 11:01:01 CET 2003



Dear all,

I am using now the fonction given by Enrique in the last message. This
is very easy to do.
Nevertheless, I noticed a problem to transfert names with blank inside
from Tcl windows to GID template files.
For example, I wrote:

in a Tcl file associated to a user's window in GID

    proc AntPatToData {} {
     global ANTENNA_DIAGRAMME
     set longueur  [string length $ANTENNA_DIAGRAMME]
     set name       [string range $ANTENNA_DIAGRAMME 0 $longueur]
     .central.s process escape escape escape data problemdata
singlefield 
     AntennaPattern  $name
   }

The name is here C:Program FilesGiDGiD7.1	estpattern.txt, with a
blank space
between "Program" and "Files".

Then, in my *.bas, there is:

    ...
    *if(strcmp(GenData(Ponctual),"YES")==0)
    #EmissionPoint
    *GenData(AntennaPattern)
    ...

and in my *.prb, ther is:

    ...
    QUESTION: AntennaPattern
    VALUE: none
    ...

This is the way given in the last message.
But, when I do that, I cannot obtain the right file name.
The name transfered is actually C:Program instead of
C:Program FilesGiDGiD7.1	estpattern.txt !

Could you give me a good way to solve this problem.

Thank you for your response

G.W.R.Geis



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Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Thu Feb 20 11:37:02 CET 2003



You should enclose the path , returned in the last sentence of 
AntPatToData, in a tcl list, like this:

list [.central.s process escape escape escape data problemdata singlefield 
        AntennaPattern $name]

best regards

Jorge Suit

ieea wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>I am using now the fonction given by Enrique in the last message. This
>is very easy to do.
>Nevertheless, I noticed a problem to transfert names with blank inside
>from Tcl windows to GID template files.
>For example, I wrote:
>
>in a Tcl file associated to a user's window in GID
>...

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                                                [GiDlist] problem with bas file

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Thu Feb 20 12:10:39 CET 2003



Forget this email, there is a big mistake in it. Sorry!!!

Jorge Suit


Jorge Suit Perez Ronda wrote:

> You should enclose the path , returned in the last sentence of 
> AntPatToData, in a tcl list, like this:
>
> list [.central.s process escape escape escape data problemdata 
> singlefield 
>         AntennaPattern $name]
>
> best regards
>
> Jorge Suit
>
> ieea wrote:
>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I am using now the fonction given by Enrique in the last message. This
>>is very easy to do.
...

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                                                [GiDlist] problem with bas file

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Feb 20 12:08:01 CET 2003



Enclose the name in quotes:
.central.s process escape escape escape data problemdata  singlefield
AntennaPattern  "$name"

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] problem with bas file


> Dear all,
>
> I am using now the fonction given by Enrique in the last message. This
> is very easy to do.
> Nevertheless, I noticed a problem to transfert names with blank inside
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                                                [GiDlist] problem with bas file

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Feb 20 12:29:01 CET 2003



Thank you very much to Jorge and Enrique...
One problem less !!
G.W.R.Geis

Enrique Escolano a écrit :

> Enclose the name in quotes:
> ..central.s process escape escape escape data problemdata  singlefield
> AntennaPattern  "$name"
>
> Enrique
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
> To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:57 AM
>...

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                  [GiDlist] (no subject)

Send by: Ricardo Resende
On: Mon Feb 10 12:48:01 CET 2003



I'm using 3d hexahedra with 20 nodes, generated outside GID.  And I'm using 
GID 7.2 in 2 computers, a desktop and a laptop. When I  import a mesh, in 
the laptop, I have to change the display properties to see it (which 
settings should I use?). And, somehow, the incidences of the elements seem 
to become truncated.


Another question is: GID doesn't use the nodes in the sides of the 
hexaheadra to draw the elements, which results in a great number of 
mistakes in the meash not being detected. Also, in preprocessing, when 
doing "list", al the nodes apear in the screen and in the list dialog box, 
but in post-processing, only the corner nodes apear. Will this be correctd 
soon?

I include a file with a mesh.

José Ricardo Pontes Resende
--------------------------------------------------------------
Bolseiro de Investigação
Núcleo de Modelação Matemática e Física
Departamento de Barragens
Laboratório Nacional de Engenharia Civil
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                              [GiDlist] (no subject)

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Feb 10 15:46:02 CET 2003



In render visualization mode, by default the volume mesh is not showed. 
To view it, must select Meshing->Boundaries.

If the variable SeeMsgRenderVolume is not zero, then if you change the render mode to Flatlighting or Smootlighting 
a dialog window is open to ask to draw the mesh as boundary.
To set this variable to true, write (in the command line) this order: 
escape escape escape utilities variables SeeMsgRenderVolume 1



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                              [GiDlist] (no subject)

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon Feb 10 17:04:02 CET 2003



Hello,

in the prefences window, 'graphical' panel,
there is a menubutton with the label 'Draw quadratic elements'.
With this option you can choose how to draw the quadratic elements:
· No - elements will be drawn as linear elements, so middle nodes are not taken
       into account
· As lines - the edges of the elements will be drawn as lines using the middle nodes.
· As curves -  the edges of the elements will be drawn as curves passing through the 
               middle nodes. these curves will be drawn in preprocess while in the
               wireframe mode and flat render, in post while using the *boundaries mode.

miguel
        

Ricardo Resende wrote:
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                              [GiDlist] (no subject)

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Feb 11 12:46:01 CET 2003



beside that, the connectivities are not correct.

Please, look at http://gid.cimne.com/support/gid_16.subst#hexa20.gif

i send you the corrected ones

miguel



Ricardo Resende wrote:
> 
> I'm using 3d hexahedra with 20 nodes, generated outside GID.  And I'm using GID 7.2 in 2 computers, a desktop and a laptop. When
> I  import a mesh, in the laptop, I have to change the display properties to see it (which settings should I use?). And, somehow,
> the incidences of the elements seem to become truncated.
> 
> Another question is: GID doesn't use the nodes in the sides of the hexaheadra to draw the elements, which results in a great
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                  [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Chen Guangjing
On: Wed Feb 12 15:22:02 CET 2003



Dear Sir/Madam

There is a problem with my GID 6.1.2:
when I select a point from a geometric figure or mesh, the point becomes

red, but the red point is so small that it is difficult to see the red
color clearly.
so could you please do me a favor to tell me how to improve it?
I look forward to your reply!

Yours sincerely,
Chen Gaungjing
Edificio D2




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                              [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Javier Mora
On: Wed Feb 12 15:46:24 CET 2003



You can use two additional tools:

Utilities - Signal - Points (the point is signed using four lines)
View - Label - All in - Points (you will see a label for each selected
point)

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
> [mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es]En nombre de Chen Guangjing
> Enviado el: miércoles, 12 de febrero de 2003 15:21
> Para: GiDlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                                          [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Chen Guangjing
On: Wed Feb 12 16:04:02 CET 2003



Hi, Javier

Many thanks for your reply!
But for me I hope the points selected to be marked by bigger red point.
This problem happened recently, and there was no such problem with my
previous GID.

Chen

Javier Mora wrote:

> You can use two additional tools:
>
> Utilities - Signal - Points (the point is signed using four lines)
> View - Label - All in - Points (you will see a label for each selected
> point)
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Javier Mora
On: Wed Feb 12 17:46:02 CET 2003



Other suggestion: check a newer version, GiD7.2 or the last beta version of
GiD6:
ftp://gid.cimne.upc.es/pub/gid_adds/Windows/Old/GiD6.3.0b-win.exe (12.6 MB)


> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
> [mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es]En nombre de Chen Guangjing
> Enviado el: miércoles, 12 de febrero de 2003 16:03
> Para: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Chen Guangjing
On: Wed Feb 12 18:11:02 CET 2003



Many thanks, but this problem still exists for both GID6.3.0b and GID7.2.
When I want to create a line, I just wish its two boundary points to be bigger.

Chen

Javier Mora wrote:

> Other suggestion: check a newer version, GiD7.2 or the last beta version of
> GiD6:
> ftp://gid.cimne.upc.es/pub/gid_adds/Windows/Old/GiD6.3.0b-win.exe (12.6 MB)
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
> > [mailto:...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Feb 12 19:19:01 CET 2003



For the next beta version, we are working in a "custom render" mode.
The user can create more "user-defined" render modes, setting some options:
point and line size, color by layer or by entity type, etc.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chen Guangjing" <chen.guangjing at upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points


> Many thanks, but this problem still exists for both GID6.3.0b and GID7.2.
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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Chen Guangjing
On: Wed Feb 12 19:41:01 CET 2003



Many thanks!
I know where to change the color of point, line, etc., but I don't know where to
change point size.
If you could tell me it will be much appreciated!

Chen

Enrique Escolano wrote:

> For the next beta version, we are working in a "custom render" mode.
> The user can create more "user-defined" render modes, setting some options:
> point and line size, color by layer or by entity type, etc.
>
> Enrique Escolano
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chen Guangjing" <chen.guangjing at upc.es...

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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Feb 12 19:58:02 CET 2003



Until this future beta version, the point size cannot be changed.

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chen Guangjing" <chen.guangjing at upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points


> Many thanks!
> I know where to change the color of point, line, etc., but I don't know
where to
> change point size.
> If you could tell me it will be much appreciated!
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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Chen Guangjing
On: Thu Feb 13 10:22:01 CET 2003



Many thanks!
Compared with the point size in other user's GID, the point size in my GID is
much smaller, and I can't see it clearly, so I can't work on.
Something must be wrong with my GID setting.

Chen

Enrique Escolano wrote:

> Until this future beta version, the point size cannot be changed.
>
> Enrique
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chen Guangjing" <chen.guangjing at upc.es>
> To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Feb 13 11:31:02 CET 2003



If your poit size is too small, try if exists some setting of your
graphic card to correct it.

Note: Find this setting in Windows (not in GiD):
screen properties -> configuration -> advanced...

Try also to update your graphic card driver.

Enrique

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chen Guangjing" <chen.guangjing at upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points


> Many thanks!
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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Chen Guangjing
On: Thu Feb 13 12:51:01 CET 2003



I have tried to change the configuration of the screen, but it didn't work
either.
Chen
Enrique Escolano wrote:

> If your poit size is too small, try if exists some setting of your
> graphic card to correct it.
>
> Note: Find this setting in Windows (not in GiD):
> screen properties -> configuration -> advanced...
>
> Try also to update your graphic card driver.
>
> Enrique
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chen Guangjing" <chen.guangjing at upc.es...

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Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Feb 13 13:36:02 CET 2003



Which Graphic card are you using?
Does the problem also appear when you change to 256 Colours?

In Windows, in the Display properties Configuration panel,
there is a button with label 'advance settings' or 'advanced options'.
Clicking on this button a window appears with some more settings.
there should be a panel with your graphics card name as label text,
for instance 'GeForce2 MX' or so . . .
inside this panel, there is a button called 'additional properties'
another window appers. 
inside one of these panels probably under the one with 'openGl' as text,
ther should be a setting like 'detail level' or 'optimize for . . .'
with at least two options: for Speed and for Quality.
You should change it to 'for Quality', so all the lines and points properties
will be applied.

Have you tried a new version of the drivers for your graphics card?

miguel




Chen Guangjing wrote:
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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with selecting points

Send by: Chen Guangjing
On: Thu Feb 13 16:44:01 CET 2003



Many thanks for your good suggestion.
My problem has been solved by  using a new version of the drivers for my graphics
card.
Chen

"Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" wrote:

> Which Graphic card are you using?
> Does the problem also appear when you change to 256 Colours?
>
> In Windows, in the Display properties Configuration panel,
> there is a button with label 'advance settings' or 'advanced options'.
> Clicking on this button a window appears with some more settings.
> there should be a panel with your graphics card name as label text,
> for instance 'GeForce2 MX' or so . . .
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                              [GiDlist] help with tcl

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Wed Feb 12 18:07:02 CET 2003



Hello;
I try to get information about centroid with tcl for every element, so i
write:
*.bas
*loop elems
*set var num=elemsnum
*elemsnum *tcl(WriteCentroidesInfo *num)
*end elems

In the tcl i tried with two ways, with "regexp" and with "split " and
"lindex". With "regexp" i got error in variable $b, with "split" amd
"lindex" i get like this: center=2.22281

proc WriteCentroidesInfo {num} {
   set a [.central.s info listMassProperties Elements $num]
   regexp -nocase {Gravity center= ([0-9]+)} $a none b
   return $b
   #set b [split $a]
   #set x [lindex $b 9]
   #return $x
   #set y [lindex $b 10]
   #return $y
   #set z [lindex $b 11]
   #return $z

}

What is my mistake?, advanced thanks
Pablo

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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Feb 12 19:57:02 CET 2003



Your regexp only expects "Gravity center=" and next a integer value (a string with numeric characters), but in this
case, the coordinates are real numbers (a real number can contain [0-9],+,-,.,E). 
Use for example this regexp:

proc WriteCentroidesInfo {num} { 
   set a [.central.s info listMassProperties Elements $num] 
   regexp {Gravity center=([0-9.+eE-]+) ([0-9.+eE-]+) ([0-9.+eE-]+)} $a {} x y z
   return "$x $y $z"
}

Enrique
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pablo Perez del Castillo 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:59 AM
  Subject: [GiDlist] help with tcl


  Hello; 
  I try to get information about centroid with tcl for every element, so i write: 
  *.bas 
  *loop elems 
  *set var num=elemsnum 
  *elemsnum *tcl(WriteCentroidesInfo *num) 
  *end elems 
  In the tcl i tried with two ways, with "regexp" and with "split " and "lindex". With "regexp" i got error in variable $b, with "split" amd "lindex" i get like this: center=2.22281 

  proc WriteCentroidesInfo {num} { 
     set a [.central.s info listMassProperties Elements $num] 
     regexp -nocase {Gravity center= ([0-9]+)} $a none b 
     return $b 
     #set b [split $a] 
     #set x [lindex $b 9] 
     #return $x 
     #set y [lindex $b 10] 
     #return $y 
     #set z [lindex $b 11] 
     #return $z 

  } 

  What is my mistake?, advanced thanks 
  Pablo 
    

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                  [GiDlist] About RamShell steel Properties.

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Tue Feb 18 06:59:42 CET 2003



Hi GiD team
   Could you advice or give some information about
Standard Steel PropertiesRamShell? I'm creating the
Standard Steel Properties, slightly different from
Ramshell. I would like to know how to import the
database of steel properties to the engine code, cuz
there are more then 100 of properties.

In Ramshell, does the engine <source code> read
directly from the file <steelSection.txt> in scripts
dir? or create the database of steel properties inside
the code?
I tried to create the database in Direct-file for
FORTRAN but it seems not be working out.

It would be gratefull if you would brief it for me how
the efficient way to manage it.

Many thanks.


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                              [GiDlist] About RamShell steel Properties.

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Feb 19 11:12:02 CET 2003



In principle, the fact to have more than 100 field in a material or
condition, would not have to be a problem.

In RamSeries, the steel properties are implemented as GiD conditions,
instead GiD materials.
(this problemtype not use any GiD material, the *.mat file is void)

The problemtype read directly the own file <steelSection.txt> with tcl, and
use this values
to set the condition field values to assign.

Enrique Escolano
----- Original Message -----
From: "VSayako Willy" <vilaysako at yahoo.com>
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                              [GiDlist] About RamShell steel Properties.

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed Feb 19 14:04:01 CET 2003



   Hello,

   There are several ways to solve this problem.

   In RamSeries, rambshell contains all the library data inside
the program source code. Of course, some kind of external utility
is necessary so as to automatize all the data and syncronize both
databases.

   Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribó
http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com
c/ Manuel Girona, 61 bajos   tel. +34 93 204 10 82
08034 Barcelona, Spain       fax. +34 93 204 19 09

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                  [GiDlist] precision of GID

Send by: Billy Fälth
On: Wed Feb 19 12:28:02 CET 2003



Hello

I have a question about the internal precision of GID. How many digits does
GID use when representing the coordinates of the nodes? I have a model,
which has a maximum dimension of 2 meters and a minimum distance between
nodes of 0.25 mm. When I load the result file in the postprocessor I get the
message “Finding edges: Problems with the triangle nr..” and the mesh is
deformed in a strange way. Could this be due to the precision of GID maybe
the precision in the result file?

 

Regards

  BF

 

Billy Fälth

Clay Technology AB

Ideon Research Center

S 223 70 Lund, SWEDEN

Tel +46 46 286 25 81

Fax +46 46 13 42 30

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                              [GiDlist] precision of GID

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Feb 19 17:57:02 CET 2003



Internally, in GiD preprocess, the mesh and geometric operations are stored in variables type double (8 bytes), in postproces, and OpenGL visualization are stored using float type (4 bytes).

Your model dimensions are useful, is not a precision problem.

Please, send us your model and result files to check it.

(Can send directly to escolano at cimne.upc.es)

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Billy Fälth 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:29 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] precision of GID


  Hello

  I have a question about the internal precision of GID. How many digits does GID use when representing the coordinates of the nodes? I have a model, which has a maximum dimension of 2 meters and a minimum distance between nodes of 0.25 mm. When I load the result file in the postprocessor I get the message "Finding edges: Problems with the triangle nr.." and the mesh is deformed in a strange way. Could this be due to the precision of GID maybe the precision in the result file?



  Regards

    BF



  Billy Fälth

  Clay Technology AB

  Ideon Research Center

  S 223 70 Lund, SWEDEN

  Tel +46 46 286 25 81

  Fax +46 46 13 42 30

  www.claytech.se





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                  [GiDlist] test

Send by: edodo
On: Thu Feb 20 08:05:02 CET 2003



        edodo
        fea at eyou.com
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                              [GiDlist] problem data

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Sat Mar 1 19:56:01 CET 2003



Hello
I have troubles with problem data file, if i modify some value and close
the problem data, when i open again or write calculate file, it does not
save the changes, what is my mistake???
advanced thanks

I am using 7.0beta and 7.2


PROBLEM DATA
TITLE: General
QUESTION: Unit_System#CB#(SI)
VALUE: SI
HELP: use coherent units
QUESTION: Title
VALUE: Default_title
TITLE: Fluid_Properties
QUESTION: Density
VALUE: 1.17
HELP: no help this item
QUESTION: Type_Flow#CB#(UNIFORM,TWISIMS)
VALUE: UNIFORM
HELP: you can choose between uniform flow, twist flow or IMS, it will
calculate angle direcction with height
QUESTION: Velocity
VALUE: 10
QUESTION: alpha_i
VALUE: 0
HELP: initial attack angle
QUESTION: alpha_f
VALUE: 10
HELP: final attack angle
QUESTION: alpha_incr
VALUE: 10
HELP: angle increment, so u can calculate in differents angles
TITLE: Solver
QUESTION: Number_steps
VALUE:1
HELP: number steps in wake relax, it is recomended over 10-12
QUESTION: k_time
VALUE: 0.05
HELP: time factor, it calculate time increment, it is recomended between
0.01,0.1
QUESTION: Lenght_elem_wake
VALUE: 0.25
HELP: size wake element in the trailing edge
QUESTION: Number_elem_wake
VALUE: 20
HELP: number elements in every strip wake
QUESTION: Solver_type#CB#(GAUSS_JORDAN_1,GAUSS_JORDAN_2,GASOLL)
VALUE: GAUSS_JORDAN_1
HELP: If you don't know what a solver is, do not change this option.
QUESTION: Cutt_off
VALUE: 0.25
END GENERAL DATA


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Send by: Javier Mora
On: Mon Mar 3 09:31:01 CET 2003



I don't know exactly the reason, but it seems to be related to the use of a
single-value option for the first question of the prb file.
Check the following:
Using more than one option in the first question:

QUESTION: Unit_System#CB#(SI,CGS,USER)
VALUE: SI
HELP: use coherent units

or swap the two first questions:

QUESTION: Title
VALUE: Default_title
QUESTION: Unit_System#CB#(SI)
VALUE: SI
HELP: use coherent units

Any of both solutions should work...
  -----Mensaje original-----
  De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
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                                          [GiDlist] problem data

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Mar 3 13:47:02 CET 2003



The problem is a confussion between the first field value "SI" and the reserved word "SingleField"
It exists at this scope (Data Problemdata) two reserved words: "SingleField" and "Escape"

It is a GiD bug in this two cases:
- If your firts problem data field value match a left part of "SingleField" (case insensitive, as in your case "SI")
- If your first problem data field value match the full word "Escape" (case insensitive)

Avoid this bug using for example IS or International instead SI.

QUESTION: Unit_System#CB#(International)
VALUE: International

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pablo Perez del Castillo 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                  [GiDlist] A bug of intersection

Send by: edodo
On: Thu Feb 20 08:25:02 CET 2003



Hi all
   I have attached a batch file,You can infort it use GID.you can find that there is some trouble.
 				

        edodo
        fea at eyou.com
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                              [GiDlist] A bug of intersection

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Feb 20 09:41:01 CET 2003



This is what you wanted (look at 1.gif)?
Which version are you using?
Are you using the 7.2?

miguel

edodo wrote:
> 
> Hi all
>    I have attached a batch file,You can infort it use GID.you can find that there is some trouble.
> 
> 
> ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡edodo
> ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡fea at eyou.com
> ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡2003-02-20
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                              [GiDlist] A bug of intersection

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Feb 20 11:07:02 CET 2003



It exists a problem with the revolution surface:
the first boundary line is not located with precision over the generated
surface. (in render mode, this line and the surface are separated)
We will try to correct this imprecisión of the surface creation as rapidly
as possible.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "edodo" <fea at eyou.com>
To: "gidlist at gid.cimne.upc.es" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                              [GiDlist] Calculate without meshing ?

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Feb 20 11:05:02 CET 2003



Dear All,

In my problem type, I do not use mesh.
In fact, I am working directly with NURBS generated with GID.

I wish run an executable file with the "Calculate" command of GID,
but each time, GID informs that "do not forget to generate a mesh".

Is it possible to avoid this message ?

Thank you for your response

G.W.R.Geis





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                                          [GiDlist] Calculate without meshing ?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Feb 20 12:22:01 CET 2003



Remove the "standard" Calculate menu and submenus, 
and add your own Calculate menu invoking your procedure
(see help->Tcl-Tk extension->Managing menus)

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
To: "GID list" <GIDlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:01 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Calculate without meshing ?


> Dear All,
> 
> In my problem type, I do not use mesh.
> In fact, I am working directly with NURBS generated with GID.
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                              [GiDlist] Problems reading IGES files

Send by: ieea
On: Fri Feb 21 14:46:01 CET 2003



Dear All (although this message be specially intended to GID's
programers...)

I noticed there is some problems when reading some IGES files.
Especially, some IDEAS's IGES files are not readable with GID !
Have you ever encountered this kind of problem ?

I join a sphere designed with IDEAS and recorded in IGES format.
This one is not readable with GID 7.1.

Thank you for your response.

G.W.R. Geis
-------------- next part --------------
                                                                        S      1
,,22HI-DEAS Master Series 8,44H/home/asfauxd/IDEAS/RONSARD/sphere_ideas.G      1
igs,,27HI-DEAS 3D IGES Translator 8,32,38,6,308,15,3HAny,1.0D0,2,2HMM,1,G      2
0.0D0,15H20030220.095101,.01D0,10000000.0D0,,,11,0,15H20030220.095101,; G      3
     128       1       0       0       0       0       0       000010001D      1
     128       0       6      24       4                      F1       1D      2
     502      25       0       0       0       0       0       000010000D      3
     502       0       0       1       1                               0D      4
     126      26       0       0       0       0       0       000010001D      5
     126       0       6       6       2                      E1       1D      6
     504      32       0       0       0       0       0       000010001D      7
     504       0       0       1       1                               0D      8
     126      33       0       0       0       0       0       000010500D      9
     126       0       0       2       1                               0D     10
     126      35       0       0       0       0       0       000010500D     11
     126       0       0       2       1                               0D     12
     508      37       0       0       0       0       0       000010001D     13
     508       0       0       1       1                               0D     14
     510      38       0       0       0       0       0       000010001D     15
     510       0       6       1       1                      F1       1D     16
     514      39       0       0       0       0       0       000010001D     17
     514       0       0       1       1                               0D     18
     186      40       0       0       0       0       0       000000001D     19
     186       0       0       1       0                               0D     20
128,8,4,2,2,1,0,0,0,0,0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,2.0D0,       1P      1
3.0D0,3.0D0,4.0D0,4.0D0,4.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,           1P      2
2.0D0,2.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,           1P      3
1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,           1P      4
1.0D0,2.0D0,2.0D0,4.0D0,2.0D0,2.0D0,2.0D0,4.0D0,2.0D0,2.0D0,           1P      5
1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,           1P      6
1.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,2.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,        1P      7
0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,        1P      8
0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,        1P      9
0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,               1P     10
-100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,-100.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,               1P     11
-100.0D0,-100.0D0,-100.0D0,-100.0D0,-100.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,           1P     12
-100.0D0,-100.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,              1P     13
-100.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,           1P     14
100.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,            1P     15
-100.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,            1P     16
0.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,       1P     17
100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,-100.0D0,         1P     18
-100.0D0,100.0D0,-100.0D0,-100.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,             1P     19
100.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,         1P     20
100.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,         1P     21
0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,           1P     22
0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,           1P     23
0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,4.0D0,0.0D0,2.0D0;                           1P     24
502,2,0.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0;                        3P     25
126,4,2,1,0,0,0,0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,.5D0,.5D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,         5P     26
1.0D0,.707106781186547D0,1.0D0,.707106781186547D0,1.0D0,0.0D0,         5P     27
100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,100.0D0,0.0D0,100.0D0,                           5P     28
-9.81307786677359D-15,0.0D0,100.0D0,-100.0D0,0.0D0,                    5P     29
-2.53745236592799D-14,-100.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,1.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,          5P     30
1.0D0;                                                                 5P     31
504,1,5,3,1,3,2;                                                       7P     32
126,1,1,0,0,1,0,0.0D0,0.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,4.0D0,0.0D0,       9P     33
0.0D0,4.0D0,2.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,1.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0;                 9P     34
126,1,1,0,0,1,0,0.0D0,0.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,1.0D0,0.0D0,2.0D0,      11P     35
0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,1.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0,0.0D0;                11P     36
508,2,0,7,1,0,1,1,9,0,7,1,1,1,1,11;                                   13P     37
510,1,1,1,13;                                                         15P     38
514,1,15,1;                                                           17P     39
186,17,1,0;                                                           19P     40
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                  [GiDlist] GiD for Mac OS X

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Feb 26 11:31:02 CET 2003



Hey, people

first beta release of GiD on Mac OS X, based on GiD 7.2:

http://gid.cimne.upc.es/download/doMAC_v7.subst

it uses the X11 window system and needs:
· Mac OS X 10.2.1 ( check http://www.apple.com/macosx for updates)
· X11 window system, for instance one of:
     - Apple: http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11
     - XDarwin: http://www.xdarwin.org

Once installed, GiD launches the X11 window system if it is not 
already launched, prior to executing itself.
  
miguel

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                              [GiDlist] About ortholimits

Send by: ieea
On: Tue Mar 4 15:19:01 CET 2003



Dear All,

Could somebody write me back what means the 7th value of the ortholimits
of a geometry.
The ortholimits values are the same that those present in the file
generated by View->View->Save
and the 7th value corresponds to the "e" variable.

Thank you by advance.

GWR Geis




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                                          [GiDlist] About ortholimits

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Mar 4 16:59:02 CET 2003



the 'e' value from the 'View->save' file comes from:

lets say that the bounding box of the model is
Low(x,y,z) - High(x,y,z)

Big = MAX( HighX - LowX, HighY - LowY, HighZ - LowZ)

then

e = 0.5 * sqrt( 3 * Big * Big);

this value is used inside gid for the margins of the model
and other calculations.

miguel

ieea wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Could somebody write me back what means the 7th value of the ortholimits
> of a geometry.
> The ortholimits values are the same that those present in the file
> generated by View->View->Save
> and the 7th value corresponds to the "e" variable.
...

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                  [GiDlist] Fwd: Rectangle meshing

Send by: Khaled Obeidat
On: Tue Mar 4 20:55:02 CET 2003



>>Hi,
>>
>>Attached is a power point representation shows what we are looking for in 
>>GID.
>>
>>Best Regards,

Khaled Obeidat
R&D Engineer
EMAG Technologies, Inc.
www.emagtechnologies.com



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                              [GiDlist] Fwd: Rectangle meshing

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Mar 5 10:59:01 CET 2003



Sorry, but this kind of "grid mesh" cannot be obtained with GiD at this time.

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Khaled Obeidat 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:01 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Fwd: Rectangle meshing


      Hi,

      Attached is a power point representation shows what we are looking for in GID.

      Best Regards,

  Khaled Obeidat 
  R&D Engineer 
  EMAG Technologies, Inc. 
  www.emagtechnologies.com





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                  [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Wed Mar 5 14:55:02 CET 2003



Hello,

I would like access the informations about the conditions applied over
the model in a more precise manner. Something like for the materials, or
the intervals data. 

Is there any way to make a loop over conditions?

Best regards,
--------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Email: mihai.teodorescu at prevost-industries.com
--------------------------------------------




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                              [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Mar 5 18:29:01 CET 2003





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                  [GiDlist] about GiD for Mac OSX

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Mar 5 16:44:01 CET 2003



Hello people,

The ones of you which already have downloaded and installed GiD for Mac OSX
will have noticed that there was a problem when launching GiD, if you
don't have installed the Mac Development Tools.

This problem is corrected. The launching 'script' has been changed 
with the new distribution which can be found at:

ftp://gid.cimne.upc.es/pub/gid_adds/MacOSX/GiD7.2Install.dmg

You will also notice that the package is smaller thatn the previous one.

more details can be found in the 'Readme.txt' file

ftp://gid.cimne.upc.es/pub/gid_adds/MacOSX/Readme.txt...

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                  [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Wed Mar 5 19:00:02 CET 2003



I already made a loop over nodes with a condition set. But the output is
not exactly  what I want.

When I made:

 *set Cond Point_Déplacement_imposé *nodes
 *loop nodes *OnlyInCond
 *format "_F(NOEUD='N%i',DX=%f, DY=%f, DZ=%f,),"
 *NodesNum*cond(1,real)*cond(2,real)*cond(3,real)
 *end nodes

the output was

 NOEUD='N3',DX=10.000000, DY=0.000000, DZ=0.000000, DRX=0.000000,
DRY=0.000000, DRZ=0.000000,'
 NOEUD='N7',DX=0.000000, DY=0.000000, DZ=0.000000, DRX=0.000000,
DRY=0.000000, DRZ=0.000000,' 

What I would like to have is:

 Condition1 DX=10.000000, DY=0.000000, DZ=0.000000, DRX=0.000000,
DRY=0.000000, DRZ=0.000000
 Condition2 DX=0.000000, DY=0.000000, DZ=0.000000, DRX=0.000000,
DRY=0.000000, DRZ=0.000000,

and then

 NOEUD='N3' Condition1
 NOEUD='N7' Condition2

I would also want to make a list of all nodes that have assigned
condition1 and all nodes that have assigned condition2

Is there any way to do it?

Best regards,
-------------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
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                              [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Mar 6 15:46:01 CET 2003



Each GiD condition instance have the own values and pointed entity, it is not shared 
a instance of a condition between entities.

Your desired work mode is similar to the GiD materials: a small collections of materials, and multiple entities
pointing to the same material.

If it does not use the materials for another thing, can use instead a condition.

You can also obtain your desired format with this:

*set Cond Point_Déplacement_imposé *nodes
*set var cont=0
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
*set var cont=operation(cont+1)
*format "%i%lf%lf%lf"
Condition1 *cont DX=*cond(Dx,real),DY=*cond(Dy,real), DZ=*cond(Dz,real)
*end nodes

*set var cont=0
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
*set var cont=operation(cont+1)
*format "%i%i"
NOEUD='N*NodesNum' Condition*cont
*end nodes

Note 1:  the obtained number of lines of conditions definition
Condition1 DX=10.000000, DY=0.000000, DZ=0.000000, DRX=0.000000
is the same as the number of lines of nodes with this condition
NOEUD='N3' Condition1

Note 2: Is best to use cond("field name") instead cond("field number"), 
it you add new fields in future versions, this id number can change



Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
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                                          [GiDlist] TKWIDGET field: HOw to manipulate checkbutton or radiobutton?

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Thu Mar 6 17:38:02 CET 2003



Hi Enrique
   Many thanks for your prompt advice. I enclosed my
attached file as a whole simple Problemtype:

I have tested using the TKWIDGET field in .cnd file to
modify some feature of the fields in this windows. My
problem is like this: (Please look at the attached
problemType).

Please advice how to manipulate the TK: <checkbutton>
in my .tcl file to make the other fields Hide, or SET,
or RESTORE as in command DEPENDENCIES:

Please look at my example file "TestTkWidget.tcl"

Best regards.

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                                                      [GiDlist] TKWIDGET field: HOw to manipulate checkbutton or radiobutton?

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Thu Mar 6 18:14:01 CET 2003



Hi Willy, here I attach the problemtype with the code to do what you ask.

best regards,

Jorge Suit

VSayako Willy wrote:

>Hi Enrique
>   Many thanks for your prompt advice. I enclosed my
>attached file as a whole simple Problemtype:
>
>I have tested using the TKWIDGET field in .cnd file to
>modify some feature of the fields in this windows. My
>problem is like this: (Please look at the attached
>problemType).
>
>Please advice how to manipulate the TK: <checkbutton>
>in my .tcl file to make the other fields Hide, or SET,
>...

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                                                      [GiDlist] TKWIDGET field:  Many Thanks to Jorge S. for advice 

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Fri Mar 7 02:44:02 CET 2003



Hi Jorge
Many Thanks for advice..

Regards.


--- Jorge Suit Perez Ronda <ronda at cimne.upc.es> wrote:
> Hi Willy, here I attach the problemtype with the
> code to do what you ask.
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Jorge Suit
> 
> VSayako Willy wrote:
> 
> >Hi Enrique
> >   Many thanks for your prompt advice. I enclosed
> my
> >attached file as a whole simple Problemtype:
> >
> >I have tested using the TKWIDGET field in .cnd file
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                                          [GiDlist] *tcl command in bas file.

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Fri Mar 7 08:09:01 CET 2003



Hi Enrique and GiD team
   I think you didn't get my point 
   Refer to my previous propblem about data in .cnd
file.  I have created the fields in .cnd file but
didn't want the values in the fields of this
conditions show up repeatedly when assign to the
elements. Can I use *tcl command to handle this
incident? I would like to have the values of this
condition as many times as I fill it in the box.
-------------------------------------------
NUMBER: 1 CONDITION:Properties
CONDTYPE: over lines
CONDMESHTYPE: over elements
QUESTION:Ix
VALUE:0.0   <--Random User-defined values
QUESTION:Iy
VALUE:0.0   <--Random User-defined values
END CONDITIONS
--------------------------------------------
Can I write something like the following? Please
correct me.

in my .bas file
*tcl(WriteSecCond)

where
proc WriteSecCond { } {
  return [.central.info conditions Properties Ix Iy]
}

Regards.



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                                                      [GiDlist] *tcl command in bas file.

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 7 13:14:01 CET 2003



I believe that the answer to this question can be in my previous answer
to Mihai TEODORESCU (RE: [ GiDlist ] loop to over conditions)

I recommend to him that examines the tcl code of the WritePointLoads
procedure of this related mail.

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: "VSayako Willy" <vilaysako at yahoo.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] *tcl command in bas file.


>
> Hi Enrique and GiD team
>...

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                                          [GiDlist] Command *if in Bas file

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Tue Mar 11 04:27:02 CET 2003



Hi Enrique and all
   Many Thanks to Enrique for your last advice. I
tried to use *if in bas file but it seems not to work
out when I combined it as:
*set Cond Properties
*set var NumProp=CondNumEntities
and so ......

*if(NumProp==0 || NumSet==0 || NumST==0)

it works only 1 case, not combined one.
Is it something wrong or it works only one-by-one case
??

Regards

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                                                      [GiDlist] Command *if in Bas file

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Mar 11 11:30:02 CET 2003



The "if" command must also work for the "combined case".
Are you sure that your values of NumProp, NumSet and NumST are as expected?

In my tests (GiD7.2)  it works ok: the condition is true is some value is
zero  and false if all are non zero.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "VSayako Willy" <vilaysako at yahoo.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:26 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Command *if in Bas file


>
> Hi Enrique and all
...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Command *if in Bas file

Send by: Pablo
On: Tue Mar 11 19:07:02 CET 2003



I think i have solved my problems, smply editing my files of *.res and *.msh
generated by the export results menu of the postp. Thanks for all

Pablo Fariñas.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Enrique Escolano" <escolano at cimne.upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Command *if in Bas file


> The "if" command must also work for the "combined case".
> Are you sure that your values of NumProp, NumSet and NumST are as
...

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                                          [GiDlist] Triangulation

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Thu Apr 3 07:01:02 CEST 2003



Hello GiD team and all GiDListers

   Could any one of you advice me where I can get the
Fortran source code of triangular mesh generator? I
have it but only in 2D (Delauney triangulation). What
about in 3D as a shell case? If anyone has used
Delauney please advice..

Best Regards.

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Send by: Khaled Obeidat
On: Thu Mar 6 08:04:02 CET 2003



   
  Do you mean that I can find the ASCII format for a hexahedral in this document which I have asked one of my office mate to translate it to English.

   

  What I did is I have edited the *.geo file and then I have added my points :

   

  1 1 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  0          0            1

   

  1 2 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  1          0            1

   

  1 3 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  1          0            0

   

  1 4 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  0          0            0

   

  1 5 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  0          -1            1

   

  1 6 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  1          -1            1

   

  1 7 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  1          -1            0

   

  1 8 0 0 3 0 0 1 0

  0          1            0

   

   

  And after that I have connect between these points to draw the 3D rectangle:

   

  2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  1 2

  2 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  2 3

  2 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  3 4

  2 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  4 1

  2 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  5 6

  2 6 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  6 7

  2 7 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  7 8

  2 8 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  8 5

  2 9 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  1 5

  2 10 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  2 6

  2 11 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  3 7

  2 12 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

  4 8

   

  Is there any other easy way I can do this??

   

   Best Regards 

   

   


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Enrique Escolano 
  To: Khaled Obeidat 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:00 PM
  Subject: GiD geo ASCII format


  This is a "not official" GiD geo format description (written in spanish).
   
  To visualize, you can also write a more easy GiD mesh ascii file of hexahedrals .
   
  For any question about the geo format, can ask to me.

  Regards
  Enrique Escolano
  -------- Original Message -------- Subject:  *geo format 
        Date:  Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:16:22 -0500 
        From:  Khaled Obeidat <...

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                              [GiDlist] Re: GiD geo ASCII format

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Mar 6 10:44:02 CET 2003



The related "spanish" document is for the GiD-geometry Ascii format, not for the GiD-mesh Ascii format.

For the GiD-mesh Ascii format, see help on Files->Import->GiD Mesh.
This is a link to the online GiD manual of this topic: http://gid.cimne.com/support/gid_6.subst#SEC38

You can generate any hexahedral mesh, and use Export->GiD Mesh to write it as a sample in ascii format
(to read after this mesh, use Import->GiD Mesh).

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Khaled Obeidat 
  To: Enrique Escolano 
  Cc: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                              [GiDlist] About *.flavia.msh

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Mar 6 15:36:01 CET 2003



Dear All,
Is GID able to read several *.flavia.msh when opening the postprocess
window ?
For instance, I tried to write 2 files in the project directory
<project_directory>.gid :
first :            <project_directory>.flavia.msh
second :      <project_directory>-1.flavia.msh
(similarly to the files generated by several *.bas !)
Thank you for those who have got a solution ...
G.W.R. Geis





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                                          [GiDlist] About *.flavia.msh

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Mar 7 10:08:01 CET 2003



Hi,
At the moment no.
You can 'merge' them together:
1.- read the first mesh/res as usual
2.- Files->Merge the rest ones.

But, 

1. at the moment, GiD does not renumber the nodes so if in the 
     second mesh you are using as node numbers 1..100, then the 
     nodes 1..100 of the mesh inside GiD will be overwritten.
2. to view the same result of both meshes at the same time, they
     should have the same name, and belong to the same anlysis
     and step value.

Preparing an example about this i noticed that there is a bug, in version 7.x 
in the 'merge' option: it doesn't not merge the results as it should be.

miguel

ieea wrote:
>...

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                  [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Thu Mar 6 17:43:01 CET 2003



I see the way yout solution work. But is not exactly what I need for my
output. 
You are right that i need something like the materials way of work.
 
I would like to have only one line definiton for all the conditions that
have the some value.
 
Exemple:
Only two conditon definitions (and not as much lines as points)
Condition1 DX =0.0 DY=0.0 DZ=0.0 
Condition2 DY=10.0 DY=10.0 DZ=0.0
 
N1 Condition1
N2 COndition2
N3 Condition1
N4 Condition1
N5 Condition2
 
Would this be possible?
 
Thank for your response,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Email: mihai.teodorescu at prevost-industries.com...

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                              [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Mar 6 20:30:02 CET 2003



You can ask GiD for the applied conditions from a tcl procedure
for example, if exists a condition named "Point-Load", you can get a list with the entities 
and values of this condition using the GiD-tcl command:

set res [.central.s info conditions Point-Load mesh]

This is a sample of the obtained result list: the number of node and your condition values:
{N 11 - 0.0 4} {N 6 - 0.0 1} {N 1 - 0.0 1}

You can modify with tcl this information, to avoid duplications (sorting and avoiding repetitions)

You can call write a tcl procedure, and call it from the bas file with *tcl(procedure_name). The value returned 
from this procedure_name is directly send to the output file. You can use 
 to obtain a carriage return
for example: 
*.tcl  file:
proc PrintHelloWorld { } {
  set a "hello
"
  append a "world
"
  return $a
}

*.bas file:
print "hello world" using a tcl procedure in two lines:
*tcl(PrintHelloWorld)


See help on Tcl-Tk extension.

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mihai TEODORESCU 
  To: ...

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                  [GiDlist] mirror images

Send by: Pablo
On: Thu Mar 6 20:35:02 CET 2003



Hello everyone,

I´m working comparing numerical and experimental results. What I want is be able to see both images (numerical and exper) in a mirror view. In this way I have arranged the files *.flavia.mesh and *.flavia.res (Are attached to this mail and are the exper. results) and I have tried to see both images at the same time by the postprocess menu "merge ascii" to the numerical file results.

I don´t know why this procedure does not work properly...
Will wait for your suggestions...
Bye
Pablo Fariñas
Dpt. Shipbuilding Engineering of A Coruña University

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Send by: Pablo
On: Thu Mar 6 22:24:01 CET 2003



Hello enrique, i dont really know what you mean. Are you sure you have answred my question?? 

You send me an answer for a question about "conditions" The answer was for a mail with a subjet "loop over condition". Thanks aniway. But i will wait again... (my subjet was "mirror images"...).

Pablo Fariñas.
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Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Mar 7 10:09:15 CET 2003



Preparing an example about this i noticed that there is a bug, in version 7.x 
in the 'merge' option: it doesn't not merge the results as it should be.

miguel


> Pablo wrote:
> 
> Hello enrique, i dont really know what you mean. Are you sure you have answred my question??
> 
> You send me an answer for a question about "conditions" The answer was for a mail with a subjet "loop over condition". Thanks
> aniway. But i will wait again... (my subjet was "mirror images"...).
> 
> Pablo Fariñas.



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                              [GiDlist] mirror images

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Mar 7 09:38:19 CET 2003



Hi,

there are only one set of files/results:
C1 - RANSOL analysis, 103.5 as step
     results: 'EDDY ENERGY' and 'VELOCITY'

'merge ascii' - this adds another mesh and/or results to the current one.
                does not renumber the nodes so if in the second mesh 
                you are using as node numbers 1..100, then the nodes 1..100
                of the mesh inside GiD will be overwritten.
                Looking at the file it seems that you already have taken this 
                into account.

to view results the results the result's name, analysis name and step value 
should be the same on both models, so that just doing 'View results->C.Fill->Eddy.../Vel... 
you'll get the results of both meshes.

miguel



>...

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                                          [GiDlist] mirror images

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Mar 7 10:15:02 CET 2003



But you can write all the meshes inside the same .msh file,
and the results inside the same .res file.

miguel

"Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> there are only one set of files/results:
> C1 - RANSOL analysis, 103.5 as step
>      results: 'EDDY ENERGY' and 'VELOCITY'
> 
> 'merge ascii' - this adds another mesh and/or results to the current one.
>                 does not renumber the nodes so if in the second mesh
>                 you are using as node numbers 1..100, then the nodes 1..100
>...

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Send by: Pablo
On: Fri Mar 7 10:35:02 CET 2003



Hello again,

As you tell me I have taken several items into account. First, the results
should be at the same time step, in spite of this i wrote at the
*.flavia.res the number of 103.5 as the step. As you can see,  the names of
results displayed are the same than your tdyn cálculus module. (I think that
in this way it should not be a problem). On the other side, about the
numbering of my attached mesh nodes, as you can see at the attached file
*.flavia.mesh, the first number of the first node is 500001 and my numerical
problem has about 75000 nodes (i think that there should not be a problem in
this way too).

Aniway my problem persist...  i don´t know if you can think in another kind
of solution...

See you,
Pablo Fariñas.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" <...

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                                                      [GiDlist] mirror images

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Mar 7 11:14:02 CET 2003



hi,
it seems that the year of your computer is not the actual one.
as i told on previous messages, in gid 7.x is a bug when merging files:
it does not mege the results as expected. it only maintains the ones
of the last mesh. Will be solved for the next version.

What you can do to overcome this problem is:
1.  put all the meshes inside the same .msh file:
    for instance:
    cat mesh1.msh mesh2.msh mesh3.msh > all_meshes.msh
2. put all the results inside the same the same .res file and the 
    same results under the same result header. This requires a little
    bit of editing . . . sorry

miguel



Pablo wrote:
> 
>...

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Send by: Pablo
On: Fri Mar 7 20:19:01 CET 2003



Hi again,
I got another problem with editing my *.flavia.res (the file of results of
numerical solutions). I can´t edit it. I am trying to edit it with the
notebook but it seems like the file was encripted... Don´t know wy is
happening this, maybe you have an answer...

In order to dont work with editing the files of results, (in the version
7.x). do you think that could be more easy work only with postprocess of an
older version wich can merge both solutions??? I have tried to do it but i
did not obtain any image at all.

Bye, Pablo Fariñas.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" <miguel at cimne.upc.es...

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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 7 21:14:02 CET 2003



It can be a binary results file: open with GiD postprocess, and save it in
ascii format before to edit
(Files->Export->Post Information->Ascii files)

Enrique Escolano
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo" <epscimne at cdf.udc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] mirror images


> Hi again,
> I got another problem with editing my *.flavia.res (the file of results of
> numerical solutions). I can´t edit it. I am trying to edit it with the
...

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Send by: Pablo
On: Mon Mar 10 17:56:02 CET 2003



Problem solved, thanks,

Pablo Fariñas.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Enrique Escolano" <escolano at cimne.upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] mirror images


> It can be a binary results file: open with GiD postprocess, and save it in
> ascii format before to edit
> (Files->Export->Post Information->Ascii files)
>
> Enrique Escolano
> ----- Original Message -----
...

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Send by: Pablo
On: Mon Mar 10 21:27:02 CET 2003



Hi again enrique,

I´m trying to work as automatically as i can, so im trying to edit thi mehs
file only pasting it in my mesh file data. But when the postprocessor is
reading gives me the followin message:
"Point number out of range?: 500007 not in [ 1, 2] Reading Mesh." and i
don´t know wy. Maybe you can tell me what does it mean...

Pablo Fariñas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Enrique Escolano" <escolano at cimne.upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] mirror images


>...

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Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Mar 11 09:15:02 CET 2003



something is worng with the mesh.
can you post it so we can take a look at it?

miguel

Pablo wrote:
> 
> Hi again enrique,
> 
> I´m trying to work as automatically as i can, so im trying to edit thi mehs
> file only pasting it in my mesh file data. But when the postprocessor is
> reading gives me the followin message:
> "Point number out of range?: 500007 not in [ 1, 2] Reading Mesh." and i
> don´t know wy. Maybe you can tell me what does it mean...
> 
> Pablo Fariñas
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
...

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Send by: Pablo
On: Tue Mar 11 10:07:02 CET 2003



sending attached file...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" <miguel at cimne.upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] mirror images


> something is worng with the mesh.
> can you post it so we can take a look at it?
>
> miguel
>
> Pablo wrote:
> >
> > Hi again enrique,
> >
> > I´m trying to work as automatically as i can, so im trying to edit thi
...

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                                                      [GiDlist] postprocess

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Tue Mar 11 13:42:01 CET 2003



Hello;
I have two questions:
1) i have a aerodynamic results over bodies, and i calculate center of effort,
so i would like to postprocess the point of center of effort with vector force.
I thought in add a new node (or element node), is there a best solution??
2) Now i have over 10 iterations for every load condition and postprocess ok,
but if i wish calculate 6 or more load conditions in every file, how can i must
to ready the postprocess?
Advanced thanks




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                  [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Fri Mar 7 08:50:02 CET 2003



Thank you. This is a good point start.

Supposing I apply the condition Point_Déplacement_imposé first with the
arguments dx=0 dy=0 dz=0 and the with the arguments dx=10 dy=0 dz=10
using the a procedere to find out all the conditions, sort them and
printing only once each condition is OK.

But If I apply twice the condition Point_Déplacement_imposé with the
some arguments dx=0 dy=0 dz=0 using the method you proposed me I will
get only one condition in my bas file. For my problem I need to be able
to print individualy each condition (the two I applied and not for each
point), even if they  have the same parameter. 

The reasons why I need individualy acces to each condition are driven by
the FEM code I use.
Supposing that I want simulate a stamping process. I need to aplpy some
conditions to block parts in space and other conditions to move down the
punch. Normaly the conditions are different. By maybe in some cases they
will have the some values in the firts step. The some is true for
forces. I need to be able to apply forces with the some values but one
will constant over time and other will evolue fonction of time. 

Best regards,
-------------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Email: ...

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                              [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Fri Mar 7 10:21:02 CET 2003



Hi Mihai
   Same as I asked the GiD team but I think to do what
you mentioned here you have to be an expert on Tcl and
understand very well how this tcl works with GiD. What
I have done in my case is such:(but not convinient)
1. Specify the conditions in .prb file
2. Then create the assign conditions in .cnd file


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                              [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 7 13:00:02 CET 2003



If you use from tcl
set res [.central.s info conditions Point-Load mesh]
and obtain {N 11 - 0.0 4} {N 6 - 0.0 1} {N 1 - 0.0 1}
Then filter whit tcl commands this result to write for example (avoing repetition of "basic values"):

Point-Load basic values:
Basic 1 - 0.0 1
Basic 2 - 0.0 4

Applied basic values:
Node 1 - Basic 1
Node 6 - Basic 1
Node 11 - Basic 2 

This is a procedure to "filter" and write this result

proc WritePointLoads { } {
  #obtain the conditions infomation from GiD
  #set conds [.central.s info conditions Point-Load mesh]
  #to test use for example this:
  set conds {{N 11 - 0.0 4} {N 1 - 0.0 3} {N 6 - 0.0 1} {N 1 - 0.0 2} {N 1 - 0.0 1}}
  #define a procedure to be used to compare two items ignorig the first 3 words, for example ignoring "N 11 -"
  proc CompareCond {a b} {
      set a0 [lrange $a 3 end]
      set b0 [lrange $b 3 end]
      if {$a0 < $b0} {
          return -1
      } elseif {$a0 > $b0} {
          return 1
      }
      return 0
  }
  #sort your list using this comparation procedure
  set conds [lsort -command CompareCond $conds]
  #write results to output temporaty in two variables: values and entities
  #write basic values without repetition
  set values "Point-Load basic values:
"
  set entities "Applied basic values:
" 
  set ibasic 1
  set ientities 1
  set cprev ""
  foreach c $conds {
    append entities "Node [lindex $c 1] - Basic $ibasic
"
    incr ientities
    if { [CompareCond $c $cprev] != 0 }  {
       append values "Basic $ibasic - [lrange $c 3 end]
"      
       incr ibasic
       set cprev $c
     }
  }
  #this returned walue is printed directly to the output file if the 
  #procedure is called from the bas file with *tcl(WritePointLoads)
  return "$values
$entities"
}


Enrique escolano

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                  [GiDlist] mirror images

Send by: Pablo
On: Fri Mar 7 09:37:02 CET 2003



Hello everyone,

I´m working comparing numerical and experimental results. What I want is be able to see both images (numerical and exper) in a mirror view. In this way I have arranged the files *.flavia.mesh and *.flavia.res (Are attached to this mail and are the exper. results) and I have tried to see both images at the same time by the postprocess menu "merge ascii" to the numerical file results.

I don´t know why this procedure does not work properly...
Will wait for your suggestions...
Bye
Pablo Fariñas
Dpt. Shipbuilding Engineering of A Coruña University

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Send by: My VDI Freemail
On: Tue Mar 11 16:11:01 CET 2003



Could someone help me on the input data for the units file (problemtype_name.uni) with regard to the definition for a materials density?
Is there any specific parameter for defining the DENSITY as it is done for example for the STRENGTH or PRESSURE?
This would be helpful for the complete characterization of a material within GiD.

Thanks for your help.

Ruediger



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                              [GiDlist] Units file

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Wed Mar 12 09:46:02 CET 2003



Hello Ruediger, you can define your own .uni file. Here I send you and 
example. The one provided with GiD is not a good example and it will be 
changed.  There are also two links regarding units systems. You should 
try version 7.2 of GiD. Although there is a known bug when writting 
TEMPERATURE in .bas file. That bug is fixed and ready to be release in 
next beta.

http://www.bipm.fr/enus/3_SI/si.html

http://www.bipm.fr/pdf/si-brochure.pdf


This is the unit file example, best regards, Jorge Suit.
 

BEGIN TABLE
length                                   : 1.0e-3 km, m { reference,
basic }, 100 cm, 1.0e+3 mm
mass                                     : kg { reference, basic }, 1.0e+3
g, 1.0e-3 t
time                                     : 1000 ms, s { reference, basic },
0.01666667 minute, 2.777778e-4 h, 1.1574e-5 day
electric current                         : A { reference, basic }
temperature                              : K { reference, basic }, ºC, ºF
amout of substance                       : mol { reference, basic }
luminous intensity                       : cd { reference, basic }
area                                     : m2 { reference, basic }, 1.0e+4
cm2, 1.0e+6 mm2
volume                                   : m3 { reference, basic }, 1.0e+6
cm3, 1.0e+9 mm3, 1.0e+3 l
velocity                                 : 3.6 km/h, m/s { reference,
basic }, 100 cm/s, 1.0e+3 mm/s
acceleration                             : m/s2 { reference, basic },
0.1019716213 Gn, 100cm/s2, 3.280839895 ft/s2,  39.37007874 in/s2, Gal
wavenumber                               : one/m { reference, basic }
mass density                             : kg/m3 { reference, basic },
1.0e-3 g/cm3
specific volume                          : m3/kg { reference, basic }
current density                          : A/m2 { reference, basic }
magnetic field strenght                  : A/m { reference, basic },
0.01256637 Oe
concentration of amount of substance     : mol/m3 { reference, basic }
luminance                                : cd/m2 { reference, basic }
refractive index                         : one { reference, basic }
plane angle                              : rad { reference, basic },
57.293489913 deg, 63.661990481 gon, 1018.5916402 mil,  3437.7468732 min,
0.15915495087 r, 0.20626479821 seg
solid angle                              : sr { reference, basic }
frequency                                : 1.0e-9 GHz, 1.0e-6 MHz, 1.0e-3
kHz, Hz { reference, basic }
force                                    : N { reference, basic }, 0.102 kp,
1.0e5 dyne
pressure                                 : Pa { reference, Basic }, 1.02e-5
kp/cm2, 1e-6 N/mm2
energy                                   : J { reference, basic }, 1.0e7
erg, N*m, 1.602e-19 eV
power                                    : W { reference, basic }, 1.0e7
erg/s
electric charge                          : C { reference, basic }, 3.0e9 esu
electric potential                       : V { reference, basic }, 3.3355e-3
statvolt, W/A
capacitance                              : F { reference, basic }
electric resistance                      : Ohm { reference, basic }, 1.0e-3
MOhm, 1.0e+3 mOhm
electric conductance                     : S { reference, basic }
magnetic flux                            : Wb { reference, basic }, 1.0e8
Mx, V*s
magnetic flux density                    : T { reference, basic }, 1.0e4 G,
Wb/m2
inductance                               : H { reference, basic }, Wb/A
luminous flux                            : lm { reference, basic }
illuminance                              : lx { reference, basic }
radionuclide activity                    : Bq { reference, basic }
absorbed dose specific energy  kerma     : Gy { reference, basic }
dynamic viscosity                        : Pa*s { reference, basic }
surface tension                          : N/m { reference, basic }
angular acceleration                     : rad/s2 { reference, basic }
heat flux density                        : W/m2 { reference, basic }, 1.0e3
erg/s*cm2
heat capacity                            : J/K { reference, basic }, 1.0e7
erg/K
specific heat capacity                   : J/kg*K { reference, basic },
1.0e7 erg/kg*K
thermal conductivity                     : W/m*K { reference, basic }, 1.0e5
erg/s*cm*K
electric field strength                  : V/m { reference, basic }
electric charge density                  : C/m3 { reference, basic }
electric flux density                    : C/m2 { reference, basic }
permittivity                             : F/m { reference, basic }
permeability                             : H/m { reference, basic }
molar energy                             : J/mol { reference, basic }
exposure x and y rays                    : C/kg { reference, basic }
absorbed dose rate                       : Gy/s { reference, basic }
heat source                              : W/m3 { reference, basic }, 10
erg/s*cm3
END

begin system(international)
length                                   : m
mass                                     : kg
time                                     : s
temperature                              : K
area                                     : m2
volume                                   : m3
velocity                                 : m/s
acceleration                             : m/s2
mass density                             : kg/m3
frequency                                : Hz
force                                    : N
pressure                                 : Pa
energy                                   : J
power                                    : W
heat flux density                        : W/m2
heat capacity                            : J/K
specific heat capacity                   : J/kg*K
thermal conductivity                     : W/m*K
end

begin system(cgs)
length                                   : cm
mass                                     : g
time                                     : s
temperature                              : K
area                                     : cm2
volume                                   : cm3
velocity                                 : cm/s
acceleration                             : cm/s2
mass density                             : g/cm3
frequency                                : Hz
force                                    : dyne
pressure                                 : Pa
energy                                   : erg
power                                    : erg/s
heat flux density                        : erg/s*cm2
heat capacity                            : erg/K
specific heat capacity                   : erg/kg*K
thermal conductivity                     : erg/s*cm*K
end

HIDDEN: acceleration, heat flux density, thermal conductivity





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                  [GiDlist] merge volumes

Send by: kenji furui
On: Tue Mar 11 17:22:01 CET 2003



Dear GiD members,

I'm trying to merge two volumes by
1. "Geometry"->"Create"->
 "volume boolean operations" -> "union"
2. Select the two volumes.

But it doesn't work at all...
 (GiD always shuts down)
Am I doing correctly?

GiD7.2 (WindowsXp)
kenji furui
U. of Texas at Austin

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                  [GiDlist] loop over conditions

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Thu Mar 13 18:11:02 CET 2003



Hello and thank you for your help.  I almost solved my problem. 
 
I met a field in the condition dialog box named "condition number". Then
I sorted the conditions as sugested by Enrique . And finaly I could
filter the informations as I needed. 
 
There is only one problem. The user have to enter for each condition a
different number. If he enter two times the same number the model will
be false. It will be best if this number would be incrementaly each time
a new condition is assigned to the model. Can I do this?
 
Thank you,
--------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
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                  [GiDlist] customisation: BOOK

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Fri Mar 14 13:58:01 CET 2003



Hi Gidders
Does anyone have an example of how to use BOOK and DEPENDENCIES in a .prb
file  the documentation in the online manual is rather lacking.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards Mark

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                              [GiDlist] customisation: BOOK

Send by: Aleix Valls
On: Fri Mar 14 14:15:02 CET 2003



Hi,

I advice you download Nastran-Interface problem type. You can use
internet retrieve option of GiD (in DATA->PROBLEM TYPE menu) to download
it. 
I think is a good example that how to use BOOK and DEP. in *.prb file. 

Aleix
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                  [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: Thomas Chan
On: Fri Mar 14 17:50:02 CET 2003



Hi GiD,

I am currently calling an executable by doing the following in the .tcl file:

.central.s process escape util calculate

and inside the .bat file i have:

%3fem.exe %3\%1

The input is a filename string and it runs fine but I wish to utilize the 
exec command in tcl instead, I tried in the .tcl file:

exec fem.exe filename

But it doesn't work.  I'm not very familar with the tcl syntax, can someone 
help me out?

Thanks a bunch,
Tom

Thomas Chan
R&D Engineer
EMAG Technologies, Inc.
www.emagtechnologies.com
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                              [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 14 18:30:02 CET 2003



The TCL language has the exec command used to invoke a subprocess. This command treats its arguments as the specification of one or more subprocesses to execute. It's possible to invoke a subprocess from GiD using this option.

To run a process in background (continue the next instruction before terminate the process) must add "&" after the command.

Example: invoking a process in the background
exec netscape http://gid.cimne.com &

Note: In Windows and from GiD, instead of & it's necessary to put >& NUL: & to run the process in the background. 
Example: exec PROGRAM_NAME >& NUL: & 

Enrique Escolano

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                                          [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: Thomas Chan
On: Fri Apr 25 00:35:02 CEST 2003



Hi GiD support,

I am using the command "exec" in my tcl scripts and it's running fine 
except that it prints out my progress messages in the error box!  Is there 
a way to customize the error box, such as modifying the text on the title 
bar and changing the dimensions of the error box?  If not, is there a way 
to disable the error box and bring out a message window or dos prompt 
window that can monitor my progress messages?  I'm running GiD v6.3 
(windows version) on Windows2000 Pro O/S.  Thanks.

Tom



Thomas Chan
R&D Engineer
EMAG Technologies, Inc.
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                                                      [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Apr 25 12:23:01 CEST 2003



the output messages resulting from the 'exec' command are printed
in the standard output. the 'exec' command does not display
any error box.
can you send a snapshot/picture of your "error box"?
and a snapshot of your code?
miguel

Thomas Chan wrote:
> 
> Hi GiD support,
> 
> I am using the command "exec" in my tcl scripts and it's running fine except that it prints out my progress messages in the error
> box!  Is there a way to customize the error box, such as modifying the text on the title bar and changing the dimensions of the
> error box?  If not, is there a way to disable the error box and bring out a message window or dos prompt window that can monitor
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                                                      [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Apr 25 12:38:02 CEST 2003



I not understand your question. What's the error box?. Your program prints to the standard output.

You can use catch to capture the exe output  in a tcl variable
for example:

catch {exec yourprogram.exe yourparameters} ret

capture the progress messages of your program in the tcl "ret" variable.

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thomas Chan 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:34 AM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Re: exec command


  Hi GiD support,

  I am using the command "exec" in my tcl scripts and it's running fine except that it prints out my progress messages in the error box!  Is there a way to customize the error box, such as modifying the text on the title bar and changing the dimensions of the error box?  If not, is there a way to disable the error box and bring out a message window or dos prompt window that can monitor my progress messages?  I'm running GiD v6.3 (windows version) on Windows2000 Pro O/S.  Thanks.

  Tom 



  Thomas Chan
  R&D Engineer
  EMAG Technologies, Inc.
  www.emagtechnologies.com 

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                                                      [GiDlist] Re: .flavia.res file

Send by: Thomas Chan
On: Fri May 9 21:09:01 CEST 2003



Hi GiD staff,
My flavia.res file has a format as follows:

  gausspoints "center" elemtype triangle
  number of gauss point: 1
  natural coordinates: internal
  end gausspoints
  E_normal(V/cm) 3 1 1 2 0 "center"
  1891 3910.47
  2705 3951.03
  .
  .
  E_tangent(V/cm) 3 1 1 2 0 "center"
  1891 .00000
  2705 .00000
  .
  .

The info windows prints:

   Found EOF too early: in this line: 2299 - Reading Results.

I can visualize both E_normal and E_tangent, which is fine.  But when I 
tried other projects with LONGER flavia.res file, the info window prints:

   Incorrect format: in this line: 4964 - Reading Results.
   Looking for result header: found unexpected result on line  4965 - 
'79095 0.000000'.

Now I can only visualize E_normal but not E_tangent.  What is wrong?  I'm 
running GiD v6.3.0b on Windows 2K Pro.  Thanks.

Regards,
Tom


Thomas Chan
R&D Engineer
EMAG Technologies, Inc.
www.emagtechnologies.com
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                                                      [GiDlist] Re: .flavia.res file

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon May 12 09:12:01 CEST 2003



Can you send an example?


Thomas Chan wrote:
> 
> Hi GiD staff,
> My flavia.res file has a format as follows:
> 
>  gausspoints "center" elemtype triangle
>  number of gauss point: 1
>  natural coordinates: internal
>  end gausspoints
>  E_normal(V/cm) 3 1 1 2 0 "center"
>  1891 3910.47
>  2705 3951.03
>  .
>  .
>  E_tangent(V/cm) 3 1 1 2 0 "center"
>  1891 .00000
>  2705 .00000
>  .
>  .
> 
> The info windows prints:
> 
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                                                      [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon Apr 28 12:09:01 CEST 2003



You have three posibilities:

* when using the exec command, redirect the output to a file
  and run the program in background:
    exec your_program.exe > outputfile.txt &
  end then create a procedure which reads this file and
  fills a window till the program finishes

* To show the output of your program, if it prints to the standard output,
  using the calculate command of GiD you have to, in the batch file, 
  redirect the output of your program to a file and let GiD know the name
  of this file 
     http://www.gidhome.com/support/gid_15.subst#SEC232
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                                                      [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: ieea
On: Tue May 27 10:21:02 CEST 2003



Dear All,

I am very interested by the first Miguel's possibility.
I wish to create a procedure that indicates progress of an external code launched by GID.
Is there a Tcl procedure in GID that allows to read the file being created by an external program and that returns the lines of this file
while the program finishes.

If somebody has got an idea...

Thank you in advance.

G.W.R. Geis

"Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" a écrit :

> You have three posibilities:
>
> * when using the exec command, redirect the output to a file
>   and run the program in background:
>     exec your_program.exe > outputfile.txt &
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                                                      [GiDlist] Re: exec command

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue May 27 10:43:02 CEST 2003



Hi,

i attach the 'tktail' command which keeps reading the content of a file and
shows it in a window

miguel

ieea wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I am very interested by the first Miguel's possibility.
> I wish to create a procedure that indicates progress of an external code launched by GID.
> Is there a Tcl procedure in GID that allows to read the file being created by an external program and that returns the lines of this file
> while the program finishes.
> 
> If somebody has got an idea...
> 
> Thank you in advance.
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                              [GiDlist] About trimmed NURBS

Send by: ieea
On: Tue Mar 18 14:28:02 CET 2003



Dear All,

Now I'm developing a ray tracer with GID using NURBS surfaces.

I get the object description from the ASCII <project>.geo file. It works
very well on untrimmed NURBS surfaces, but I would like to extend it to
trimmed surfaces.

For the moment, I'm able to extract the 3D trimming curves and their
orientations. Is it possible to use these informations to implement an
efficient inside test ?

Generally speaking, could you tell me how GID can detect the inside from
the outside of the trimmed NURBS ?

Thank you in advance,

G.W.R. Geis




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                                          [GiDlist] About trimmed NURBS

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Thu Mar 20 12:43:01 CET 2003



    Hello,

    the surface contains an indicator for every line contained inside
it (SAME1ST or DIFF1ST). It tell if the line is to be taken in its
natural orientation or in the inverse. Then, a line has the existent
part of the surface in the anticlockwise side, taking as orientation
rule the right hand rule related to the normal of the surface.

    If you want to implement the math's of it, you will have some work.

    You can find some pointers to some scientifical papers in my web
page where to find more:

   http://gatxan.cimne.upc.es/ramsan

    Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
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                                                      [GiDlist] About trimmed NURBS

Send by: ieea
On: Wed Apr 2 09:24:02 CEST 2003



Dear Ramon Ramsan,

Thank you for your response. I am sorry being late to answer you...
We noticed that the server corresponding to your web site is now out, so it
is difficult for us to read your papers.
Nevertheless, we have yet a good experience using NURBS surfaces and
especially how to read GID ASCII files of geometry. In fact, we are looking
for a software (C or Fortran sources) which could help us to well study our
GID's geometries without creating mistakes, in particular with the trimmed
surfaces which are small different than the others.
If you could advice us a good web site, it would be great !

Thank you again for you answer and congratulations for GID.

G.W.R. Geis





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                                                      [GiDlist] About trimmed NURBS

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed Apr 2 12:16:01 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   My personal web page should be working again.

   There is plenty of source code about NURBS in Internet. The problem
is that it has the basement but it is not normally too reliable.
Specially
for complex operations like intersections, tessellation and so on. Maybe
you can check the OpenGL companion, the GLU library, that has
tessellation
routines for NURBS and that now can be obtained with source code. Search
in:
www.opengl.org

   A last comment: Trimmed NURBS surfaces are MUCH, MUCH more difficult
than
plain NURBS for some operations like tessellation, visualization and
others.

   Do not hesitate to explain in this list your experiences and
successes in
these issues.

   Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
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                              [GiDlist] About ".central.s info gendata"

Send by: ieea
On: Tue Mar 18 16:23:02 CET 2003



Dear All,

I wish to use the Tcl command ".central.s info gendata" because I read
in the GID Help that
this one returns the information entered in the Problem Data window.

Nevertheless, I do not understand what means the [OTHERFIELDS] option
and how to use it !

I wish to use  a Tcl command that returns the data recorded in the
Problem Data window in the same
way as the command *gendata(<name of data>)  of the *.bas file.

Can somebody advice me.

Thank a lot,

G.W.R. Geis





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                                          [GiDlist] About ".central.s info gendata"

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Tue Mar 18 16:59:01 CET 2003



Hi Geis,

OTHERFIELD refers to attributes of questions like HELP, STATE or 
DEPENDENCIES, or TITLES, or BOOKS. What you describe here can be done 
with an undocumented procedure (in the future will be documented) named 
_GidAccessValue. Here I attached a description of the procedure.

best regards,

Jorge Suit

ieea wrote:

>Dear All,
>
>I wish to use the Tcl command ".central.s info gendata" because I read
>in the GID Help that
>this one returns the information entered in the Problem Data window.
>
>Nevertheless, I do not understand what means the [OTHERFIELDS] option
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                                                      [GiDlist] About ".central.s info gendata"

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Tue Mar 18 18:59:02 CET 2003



Because _GidAccessValue is now an internal function an may change we 
 recomend you, to be sure, use the interface provided in .central.s info 
command.
This could be one solution using .central.s info. With this solution you 
should first call FillGenData, to make a cache of the fields in Problem 
Data, before the calls to GetGenDataField to access the fields.

best regards,

Jorge Suit


# --------------------------------------------------------------------------
# FillGenData --
# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

proc FillGenData { } {
    global YourGenData

    array set YourGenData [lrange [.central.s info gendata] 1 end]
}

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------
#  GetGenDataField --
# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

proc GetGenDataField { field } {
    global YourGenData

    set _field [array names YourGenData ${field}*]
    if {[llength $_field]} {
        return  $YourGenData([lindex $_field 0])
    } else {
        return ""
    }
}


Jorge Suit Perez Ronda wrote:

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                                                      [GiDlist] About ".central.s info gendata"

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Mar 20 10:10:02 CET 2003



Thank you to Jorge and Enrique for their advices and to Mihai for his
observe.

I decided to use the Tcl Scripts of Jorge untitled FillGenData and
GetGenDataField because I am sure
that the ".central.s info gendata" command will be maintain in the next
versions of GID.

Thank you again,
read you soon, in response of my next question(s) !..

G.W.R. Geis

Jorge Suit Perez Ronda a écrit :

> Because _GidAccessValue is now an internal function an may change we
> recomend you, to be sure, use the interface provided in .central.s
> info command.
> This could be one solution using .central.s info. With this solution
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                                          [GiDlist] About ".central.s info gendata"

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Mar 18 18:44:01 CET 2003



If you use the last GiD 7.2 version, it exists a new, and easy tcl procedure to get a problemdata field value
(is specially designed to be used by a GiD problemtype developer)

This procedure access to values by fieldname insted by index (is more easy to maintain code accesing by fieldname )
proc GidUtils::GetProblemDataValue { fieldname }

For example, if the problem data field is named "AnalysisType", you can use in tcl this order:

set type [::GidUtils::GetProblemDataValue AnalysisType]

Regards
Enrique Escolano


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                  [GiDlist] About ".central.s info gendata"

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Wed Mar 19 09:02:02 CET 2003



What about acces to others data sets: Conditions, Materials. The
_GidAccessValue function seems to be have acces to more  information
than the user interface fonctions GIdUtils::GetProblemDataValue and
GidUtils::GetCurrentIntervalDataValue.
 
Best regards,
--------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Email: mihai.teodorescu at prevost-industries.com
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                              [GiDlist] Finding a Tcl procedure to execute *.win.bat

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Mar 20 17:00:02 CET 2003



Dear All,

I am looking for a Tcl procedure to execute a <problem_type>.win.bat.
I wish to reproduce the same command as GID, that means:

 <problem_type>.win.bat    <project_name>   <project_name_directory>
<problem_type_directory>

and now,  don't.

For example I execute the Execute command from the InitGIDProject
procedure something like this :


    proc InitGIDProject { dir } {

    # The Execute Tcl command is called here
        source $dir/scripts/Execute.tcl
        ...
    # the variable GidRepertoire take the value of the
<problem_type_directory> directory
       set GidRepertoire  $dir
        ...

    # the variable GidRepertoire take the value of the
<problem_type_directory> directory
        Execute GidRepertoire
        ...

    }


with:


    proc Execute {repertoire} {

    # The name of the executable <problem_type>.win.bat
        set executable        "IDRA.win.bat"

        set exttrans              "/"
        set aa                      [.central.s info Project]
        set ProblemType     [lindex $aa 0]
        set ProjectName     [lindex $aa 1]
        set ProjectName     [file root $ProjectName]

        set repertoire           [file native $repertoire]

    # the argument  %1
       set basename          [file tail $ProjectName]

    # the argument  %2
        set directory       $ProjectName.gid

    #  the argument %3 corresponds to $repertoire

        append script  $repertoire$exttrans$executable

        exec $script   "$basename" "$directory" "$repertoire" >&
NUL: &

}


This procedure doesn't work here because the directory names are written
as:

    C:Program FilesGIDGID7.2problemtypesIDRA.gid

and should be written as:

    C:PROGRA~1GIDGID7.2PROBLE~1IDRA.GID

Can somebody help me to use the right Tcl command.

Thank you in advance,

G.W.R. Geis


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                                          [GiDlist] Finding a Tcl procedure to execute *.win.bat

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 21 22:14:02 CET 2003



To run a bat file is needed call a interpreter command as "command.com" for
Win9x or "cmd.exe" of WinNT/2000

You can use  auto_execok to write a "system independent" command  (it set
automatically the appropiate paht
and cmd.exe or command.com)

exec [auto_execok $batfile]

You can also use command.exe provided with GiD to avoid some limitations of
the
Windows command.com and cmd.exe (size of parameters with small limit, etc)
See GiD help on Tcl/Tk extension->Using EXEC in GiD

exec [[file join $GIDDEFAULT command.exe] $batfile]

Enrique

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                                                      [GiDlist] Finding a Tcl procedure to execute *.win.bat

Send by: ieea
On: Mon Mar 24 13:17:04 CET 2003



Thank you Enrique for your response, neverthless, my problem is not exactly
this one and I had surely not well explained it !

I wish execute an external program without generating a mesh (that means, it is
not possible to use a <problem_type>.win.bat).
So, I'd execute an external program called PROGRAM.exe, for example.

This program needs the name of the problem type directory and the name of the
current project, which will be recognized as argument %1 and %2 by PROGRAM.exe
.
For the moment I use this Tcl command:

    exec PROGRAM.exe $<problem_type_directory> $<current_project_name>  >& >
NUL: &

where :
    $<problem_type_directory> is the variable containing the name of the
problem typedirectory which is here: C:Program
FilesGIDGID7.2problemtypesIDRA.gid
and
    $<problem_type_directory> is the variable containing C:Documents and
SettingIDRA	est.gid

But this doesn't work, because the directories names are not given by their
Window 3.1 name (there is blank space in the name).

Could you tell me if it is the good way to execute without meshing or if there
is an other good solution.

Thank you if you have a response.

G.W.R. Geis



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                                                      [GiDlist] Finding a Tcl procedure to execute *.win.bat

Send by: ieea
On: Mon Mar 24 22:33:01 CET 2003



Dear All,

OK, I have found the response to my question (great!)

To execute an external program.bat using arguments:



proc InitGIDProject { dir } {
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
#    InitGIDProject
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
...
     InsertMenuOption  "Calculate" "Run IDRA" 5 {RunExternalProgram $dir} "PRE"
"insert"
     UpdateMenus
...
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
#    End InitGIDProject
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
}



proc IdraIsRunning {repertoire} {
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
#    RunExternalProgram
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    set repertoire            [file native $repertoire]
    set exttrans             ""
    set nothing              ""
    set aa                      [.central.s info Project]
    set ProblemType     [lindex $aa 0]
    set ProjectName     [lindex $aa 1]
    set ProjectName     [file root $ProjectName]
    set executable         "ExternalProgram.exe"

# Corresponding to GID's %1
    set basename        [file tail $ProjectName]
    set basenameFF      [file native $basename]

# Corresponding to GID's %2
    set directory       $ProjectName.gid
    set directoryFF     [file native $directory]
    set directoryFFF   [file attributes $directoryFF -shortname]
    set directoryFFF   [file native $directoryFFF]

# Corresponding to GID's %3
    set repertoireFF     [file native $repertoire]
    set repertoireFFF   [file attributes $repertoireFF -shortname]
    set repertoireFFF   [file native $repertoireFFF]

# Script to execute

    append script $repertoireFF$exttrans$executable
    exec $script $basenameFF $directoryFFF $repertoireFFF >& NUL: &
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
#    End RunExternalProgram
#    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
}

Ouf !

G.W.R. Geis







ieea a écrit :

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                              [GiDlist] Problem with *.flavia.msh in GID 7.2

Send by: ieea
On: Fri Mar 21 13:54:01 CET 2003



I noticed in GID 7.2 that the POSTPROCESS doesn't read the <problem
type>.flavia.msh file,
created from a problem type <problem type>.

When the POSTPROCESS window is called, only the <problem type>.msh is
read in GID 7.2, what it is not the case in the GID 7.1.

G.W.R. Geis




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                                          [GiDlist] Problem with *.flavia.msh in GID 7.2

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 21 22:29:01 CET 2003



Hola Miguel.
Parece que tiene razón esta persona
Puedes mirar de corregirlo.

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
To: "GID" <GiDlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:50 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Problem with *.flavia.msh in GID 7.2


> I noticed in GID 7.2 that the POSTPROCESS doesn't read the <problem
> type>.flavia.msh file,
> created from a problem type <problem type>.
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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem with *.flavia.msh in GID 7.2

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon Mar 24 13:09:02 CET 2003



Yes, i found the problem. will be solved for the next beta.
in the mean time you can rename your .flavia.msh /.flavia.res
to .post.msh /.post.res.

miguel

Enrique Escolano wrote:
> 
> Hola Miguel.
> Parece que tiene razón esta persona
> Puedes mirar de corregirlo.
> 
> Enrique
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
> To: "GID" <GiDlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                                          [GiDlist] Problem with *.flavia.msh in GID 7.2

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 21 22:29:48 CET 2003



It seems a bug to correct. But, if it exists the results file
(*.flavia.res), then if exist (*.flavia.msh) is also
readed instead the preprocess mesh.

Thanks for your bug report

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
To: "GID" <GiDlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:50 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Problem with *.flavia.msh in GID 7.2


> I noticed in GID 7.2 that the POSTPROCESS doesn't read the <problem
>...

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                  [GiDlist] Mesh export to DXF

Send by: Elizabeth Borders
On: Fri Mar 21 16:25:02 CET 2003



Hi GIDers!
This is hopefully a quick one...

Is it possible to expert a structure's mesh to DXF, instead of just the 
structure itself?

I only see the one option under the File drop down, to "Write to DXF". This 
only exports the structure without the mesh.

thanks! 




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                  [GiDlist] Mesh export to DXF

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Fri Mar 21 17:35:02 CET 2003



you can do the following for linear element surface meshes.
go to file import/export write using template.bas & select dxf.bas in your
gid templates directory, give the output file a name & you have written a
dxf file for your mesh.
you can then import it as a dxf file of geometry, if you only want linear
element & not surface elements use geometry:delete:surface & select all &
hay presto  wireframe geometry.
I don't know if it works with solids?
If your elements are quadratic triangles/tets I have a template file which
writes out a mesh file linear elements (6 per triangle or 12 per tet) then
you can use the above method on this imported mesh file. It should be easy
enough to modify for Quad elements if needed.
Anyone who wants a copy just send an email & I'll send a copy of the
template files.
Regards
Mark


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                  [GiDlist] Mesh export to DXF

Send by: Elizabeth Borders
On: Fri Mar 21 19:52:01 CET 2003



Thank you for your very helpful reply. I see how I should be able to do 
this, now.
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a file named "dxf.bas" in any of my 
directories.
Is there some way to generate that?

thanks much.


  04:33 PM 3/21/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>you can do the following for linear element surface meshes.
>go to file import/export write using template.bas & select dxf.bas in your
>gid templates directory, give the output file a name & you have written a
>dxf file for your mesh.
>you can then import it as a dxf file of geometry, if you only want linear
>element & not surface elements use geometry:delete:surface & select all &
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                              [GiDlist] Mesh export to DXF

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Mar 21 21:59:02 CET 2003



If your GiD version is updated, it exists a directory 	emplates (inside
your GiD directory), containing some
simple templates to export mesh (DXF.bas, NastranMesh.bas, STL.bas,
VRML.bas).
Any user can add more own templates
To export with the DXF.bas template use the menu
Files->Export->Using Template bas (mesh only)->DXF

If your GiD is old, update to the last GiD 7.2 version (the password is the
same foreach 7.x versions)

I' attach two templates, DXF.bas (included by default with GiD)
and DXFSAP2000.bas to write with some special style for input of the FE code
SAP2000.
(Copy this templates inside 	emplates)

Regards
Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] Tresca stress norm

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Tue Apr 1 13:02:02 CEST 2003



Hello,
in the stress post processing I visualize the Von "Mises stress" 
and I would like to do it also for the Tresca one.

max((S1 - S2), (S2 - S3), (S3 - S1)) ... 

GiD in post processing calculates the principal stresses S1-S3 
(autovalues of the stress tensor) automatically, is it possible to 
have access to those quantities in some way?

Regards

Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com




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                              [GiDlist] Tresca stress norm

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Apr 1 20:55:02 CEST 2003



If is planned a task to create in postprocess a new result, as an
arithmetical combination of other results,
but by now fis feature is not available.

It is needed to write explicit in the results file (*.flavia.res) this
"Tresca stress" as an aditional scalar result.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrea Calaon" <andrea at beasy.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:56 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Tresca stress norm


> Hello,
...

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                  [GiDlist] Mesh points local number

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Tue Apr 1 13:32:02 CEST 2003



Hello,
I'm writing an interface for a BEM software and I need to 
provide point (mesh) boundary conditions.

The input file needs the number of the element AND the local 
node. Only one of the elements sharing that node.

es: "DISPLX1 234 3 0.0000000e001"
where the condition DISPLX1 applies to the node 3 of element 
234 (which could be of any kind).

Is it possible to obtain this information in some way with a tcl 
function?
I thought a loop on the element connectivity table checking the 
presence of an absolute node number coming from the 
condition.

Regards


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: ...

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                              [GiDlist] Mesh points local number

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Apr 1 22:40:02 CEST 2003



You can get from tcl, the information of the list of nodes/elements and values 
of a condition with info condition "cond_name" mesh, for example:

set infocnd [.central.s info conditions Displacement mesh]

You can also get the mesh elements and make a loop over the elements to set an array, for example SingleElem(inode) 
whit a elem number (only the last is stored)

set elemtypes [lindex [.central.s info mesh] 0 end]
foreach etype $elemtypes {
  set infoelems [.central.s info mesh elements $etype]
  #get a list with elemsnum elemsconec(1) ... elemsconec(1) elemsmat
  #must verify the type and nnode of the element type
  if { $etype == Triangle } {
    foreach {i n1 n2 n3 mat} $infoelems {
      set SingleElem($n1) "$i 1" ;#overwrite a previous element number, store only the last
      set SingleElem($n2) "$i 2"
      set SingleElem($n3) "$i 3"
    }   
  }
}

#Then write your desired format

set res ""
foreach i $infocnd {
  set nnode [lindex $i 1]
  set fieldvalue  [lindex $i 4]  ;#change 4 to the apropiate field incex
  append res "DISPLX1 $SingleElem($nnode) $fieldvalue
"
}
return res


Note: This code is untested, but it can works with small corrections

Enrique Escolano


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                  [GiDlist] Thanks a lot for the Tcl on local nodes numbers and point conditions

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Wed Apr 2 13:32:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD and Mr. Escolano,
thank you very much for your long and detailed answer.

Regarding one of my recent questions (copied at the end of this 
mail) I was trying to loop directly form a .bas file on nodes and 
elements, like in an exemple in the Mail list Archives, modified 
for the present case ...
In principle I found the way but I have a problem:
if I select 2 geometrical points is OK, but with more I get an 
error:

"Error in base file C:Program 
FilesGiDGiD7.2problemtypesMy_PTProblem_LowRisk.gidPo
int_Constraints.bas at line number 5: Max. 3 for"

I attach part of the .cnd file and the .bas of interest.

I forgot before, but compliments for GiD!!!
Only your "SAME1ST" and "DIFF1ST" information on surfaces 
around volumes allowed me to automatise completely 
something till now almost impossible with programs that are 
not real solid modellers. And the whole program is amazingly 
powerful.

Just some more documentation on customisation wouldn't be 
bad.

Thanks

Regards

**************************************************
Hello,
I'm writing an interface for a BEM software and I need to 
provide point (mesh) boundary conditions.

The input file needs the number of the element AND the local 
node. Only one of the elements sharing that node.

es: "DISPLX1 234 3 0.0000000e001"
where the condition DISPLX1 applies to the node 3 of element 
234 (which could be of any kind).

Is it possible to obtain this information in some way with a tcl 
function?
I thought a loop on the element connectivity table checking the 
presence of an absolute node number coming from the 
condition.

Regards


Andrea Calaon
**************************************************


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: ...

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                              [GiDlist] Thanks a lot for the Tcl on local nodes numbers and point conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 2 19:14:02 CEST 2003



This is a  GiD bug using a 'break' inside a 'for' block. 
Currently in the documentation, a break must be inside a 'loop' block.
For the next GiD beta version (the current last is 7.3b)  this bug is corrected, and the break also exits a 'for' block.

At this moment, you can use this corrected code, bypassing the bug.
(also is more efficient, it exits the loop elements if it found some element pointing the node)

*Set Cond Point_Displacements *nodes
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
*loop elems
*set var found=0
*for(i=1;i<=ElemsNNode;i=i+1)
*set var inode=ElemsConec(*i,int)
*if((NodesNum==inode))
*if(strcmp(cond(1),"1")==0)
*format "%5i%5i%14.7E"
DISPLX1 NODAL *ElemsNum *i   *cond(2,real)
*endif
*if(strcmp(cond(3),"1")==0)
*format "%5i%5i%14.7E"
DISPLX2 NODAL *ElemsNum *i   *cond(4,real)
*endif
*if(strcmp(cond(5),"1")==0)
*format "%5i%5i%14.7E"
DISPLX3 NODAL *ElemsNum *i   *cond(6,real)
*endif
*set var found=1
*endif
*end for
*if(found)
*break
*endif
*end elems
*end nodes

Regards
Enrique Escolano
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                  [GiDlist] Doc small imprecision

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Wed Apr 2 17:46:02 CEST 2003



Hello,
I noticed (I copied the command and it didn't work) that on 
your docum. web site:
http://gid.cimne.upc.es/support/gid_15.subst#IDX485

there is a referiment to a non existing command "npoint" insted 
of the right "npoin".

Regards




Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com
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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 2 19:40:02 CEST 2003



This is updated, thanks

Enrique Escolano
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andrea Calaon 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:39 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Doc small imprecision


  Hello,
  I noticed (I copied the command and it didn't work) that on your docum. web site:
  http://gid.cimne.upc.es/support/gid_15.subst#IDX485


  there is a referiment to a non existing command "npoint" insted of the right "npoin".


  Regards








  Andrea Calaon


  Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
  Southampton, Hampshire
  SO40 7AA, UK
  Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
  Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
  Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
  E-mail: ...

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                  [GiDlist] Triangulation

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Thu Apr 3 10:38:01 CEST 2003



Hi,
TETGEN a 3D Delaunay tetrahedral generator in C++ http://tetgen.berlios.de/

& of course Triangle A Two-Dimensional Quality Mesh Generator and Delaunay
Triangulator. in C at
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~quake/triangle.html

Sorry not Fortran but maybe of some use.

Regards
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: VSayako Willy [mailto:vilaysako at yahoo.com]
Sent: 03 April 2003 06:01
To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                  [GiDlist] How can I list number of Middle nodes and corner nodes separately?

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Sat Apr 5 23:35:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD users and GiD teams,

May I ask some questions.

1. I need to link GiD with Stoke's flow problem using 6-node triangle mixed p-u formulation (p=pressure, u= velocity vector vx,vy).  Since p are only at corner nodes (3 DOFs per element) and u are at corner and midside nodes (12 DOFs per element). Can GiD list number of corner node and midside node separately ?
 
2. Can GiD show nodes and element meshes at the same time and in which mode (pre- or post- )?

Have a nice weekend

Best regards,

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                              [GiDlist] How can I list number of Middle nodes and corner nodes separately?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 7 11:53:02 CEST 2003



1- GiD cannot separate midnodes and corner nodes.
You must separate it inside your code (or an auxiliary program to be called from the bat file before your code)

It is possible to simulate two "sets" of elements, writting two times each quadratic element (one time as quadratic and one as linear): 

For example, using a *.bas template similar to this:

NODES:
*loop nodes
*nodesnum *nodescoord
*end nodes

*set var cont=1
QUADRATIC ELEMENTS
*loop elems
   num=*cont connectivities:*
*for(i=1;i<elemsnnode;i=i+1)
elemsconec(i) *
*end for

*set var cont=operation(cont+1)
*end elems

LINEAR ELEMENTS:
*loop elems
   num=*cont connectivities:*
*for(i=1;i<elemsnnodecurt;i=i+1)
elemsconec(i) *
*end for

*set var cont=operation(cont+1)
*end elems

Note: The local numeration of the element nodes is hyerarchical, first are listed the corner nodes and after the midnodes
*elemsnnode return the nodes of a element, but *elemsnnodecurt returns only the number of corner nodes of a element.

This template is untested, it can contain some small bug.

2- By default, the nodes are not draw to speed the visualization. To show it in preprocess use the command:
escape escape escape View Entities Nodes
(write directly in the command line, or pressing the rigth buttons, hidden by defauld)
In postprocess you can draw only nodes or only elements, but not both.

Instead to show the nodes, you can show your labels (menu view->label inside pre or postprocess)

Regards
Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adisorn Owatsiriwong 
  To: GiD 
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 11:34 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] How can I list number of Middle nodes and corner nodes separately?


  Dear GiD users and GiD teams,

  May I ask some questions.

  1. I need to link GiD with Stoke's flow problem using 6-node triangle mixed p-u formulation (p=pressure, u= velocity vector vx,vy).  Since p are only at corner nodes (3 DOFs per element) and u are at corner and midside nodes (12 DOFs per element). Can GiD list number of corner node and midside node separately ?

  2. Can GiD show nodes and element meshes at the same time and in which mode (pre- or post- )?

  Have a nice weekend

  Best regards,


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                              [GiDlist] Gid Post Processor

Send by: LEWIS, RANDEL E
On: Mon Apr 7 15:33:01 CEST 2003



The default Gid 7.1 Post Processor provides stress components Si, Sii
and Siii in addition to those obtained from  the solid model *flavia.res
file.  These are not defined in the supplied documentation.  Are they
Principal Stresses derived from the X, Y and Z stress components of the
*.flavia.res file?
 
Randy
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Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon Apr 7 15:53:01 CEST 2003



Yes, 
they are the main stresses of the tensor matrix.
given a matrix result, GiD calculates its eigen values and eigen vectors.
Si, Sii, Siii are ordered by its eigen values.
yes, sorry, the documentation is too brief about this question, we'll include
an explanation about this in the documentation.

miguel

> "LEWIS, RANDEL E" wrote:
> 
> The default Gid 7.1 Post Processor provides stress components Si, Sii and Siii in addition to those obtained from  the solid model
> *flavia.res file.  These are not defined in the supplied documentation.  Are they Principal Stresses derived from the X, Y and Z
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                              [GiDlist] background job execution from GID

Send by: ieea
On: Mon Apr 7 15:43:01 CEST 2003



Dear All,
I am using the tcl command :

    exec $executable $arg1 $arg2 $arg3 >& NUL: &

This command seems not to be a background executing command. Whenever I
used it, the GID window is "frozen" !So, my questions are:

How is it possible to run a backgroung job ?

And how is it possible to know that this job is over ?

If somebody has got a response, it will be interesting for me (us).
Thank you.

G.W.R. Geis




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                                          [GiDlist] background job execution from GID

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 7 19:53:02 CEST 2003



Your command execute the process in background !!

Try for example to run a Windows notepad, writting in the command line this:

-np-  exec "c:/winnt/system32/notepad.exe" >& NUL: &

Note: -np- is to indicate a tcl command instead a word to process.
(It is supposed notepad.exe located in c:winntsystem32, this location can be changed)

This open a notepad text editor without block GiD (the process work in background)

Try now to run whitout the ampersand:

-np-  exec "c:/winnt/system32/notepad.exe"

Then GiD is locked until exit notepad.

Regards

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] Detecting normals and points

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Wed Apr 9 04:02:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone!
Question: is it possible in some “easy” way to detect if a normal 
of a surface or element is pointing INSIDE or OUTSIDE the 
volume (or the volumes) the surface is boundary of?
And similarly, is it possible to obtain the information about which 
volume a point belongs to?
Thanks in advance
I wish you a nice day


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com




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                                    [GiDlist] Detecting normals and points

Send by: Frank Rückert
On: Wed Apr 9 06:32:02 CEST 2003



Hi,

if you calculate the scalar product. You can get
informations of the orientation.

Best wishes,
Frank Rueckert

Andrea Calaon wrote:

>Hi everyone!
>Question: is it possible in some "easy" way to detect if a normal 
>of a surface or element is pointing INSIDE or OUTSIDE the 
>volume (or the volumes) the surface is boundary of?
>And similarly, is it possible to obtain the information about which 
>volume a point belongs to?
>Thanks in advance
>I wish you a nice day
>
>
>Andrea Calaon
>
>Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
>...

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                              [GiDlist] Detecting normals and points

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Apr 9 09:23:01 CEST 2003



Hi,

You can draw the normals with
Utilities->Draw Normals-> Lines/Surfaces/Color
which will draw the normals for Lines or surfaces with an arrow,
or with color.
While the normals are drawn, you can select several options with
the contextual menu ( clicking with the right mouse button over
the drawing area):
All swaped/SwapSome/SwapGroup/SelByNormal
These are tools to change the normal orientation.
You can find more help here:

http://www.gidhome.com/support/gid_9.subst#SEC122
http://www.gidhome.com/support/gid_9.subst#SEC123...

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                              [GiDlist] Detecting normals and points

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed Apr 9 12:26:01 CEST 2003



    Hello,

   If the surface is the boundary of ONLY one volume, it is guaranteed
that its normal will point towards inside the volume. If two volumes
share the same surface, you will have to look at the orientation flags
that are inside every volume and can be SAME1ST or DIFFST. The same
for elements.

   To check it graphically, use:
      Utilities->Draw Normals

   Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com
c/ Manuel Girona, 61 bajos   tel. +34 93 204 10 82
08034 Barcelona, Spain       fax. +34 93 204 19 09  

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                  [GiDlist] Product and tools

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Wed Apr 9 17:02:01 CEST 2003



Thanks all for the tips about normals and volumes.

I already use the normals, and have menu entries to visualize the 
orientation of surfaces with arrows and colors ... and use the 
information “SAME1ST DIFF1ST” provided by GiD in an external 
C++ routine ...
I was just looking for some way to automatise some tasks (and so 
not risk any errors).

I know the sign of a scalar product can provide the reciprocal 
“orientation” between two vectors or surface normals.
But I was asking if the surface points inside or outside a VOLUME, 
not its orientation relative to another one.
What I don't know is if in GiD there are some already build in 
functions to avoid the use of computational geometry routines and 
calculation of area around spherical angles 
 to detect if a free point 
in space is inside or outside a volume (not easily the convex hull 
defined from some of his points).
And since GiD is a solid modeller I was thinking of some of the 
routines used in Boolean operation with volumes, or something 
similar. May be in a future version it could be an information 
provided, I don’t know 

The information “SAME1ST DIFF1ST” doesn’t offer me what I was 
looking for because it tells me only if the orientation of a surface is 
consistent with an initial reciprocal orientation between the normal 
of surface 1 and the z axis.
At the end so is still a “human” choice to say if a normal to a surface 
is pointing inside or outside a volume.
Sorry for the long mail.
Thanks in any case.




Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
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                              [GiDlist] Product and tools

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 9 20:24:01 CEST 2003



In GiD, If a volume has a surface as boundary, with Orientation == SAME1ST, then 
the surface normal points inside the volume, else the normal points outside.

Enrique Escolano

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andrea Calaon 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:02 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Product and tools


  Thanks all for the tips about normals and volumes.




  I already use the normals, and have menu entries to visualize the orientation of surfaces with arrows and colors ... and use the information "SAME1ST DIFF1ST" provided by GiD in an external C++ routine ...

  I was just looking for some way to automatise some tasks (and so not risk any errors).




  I know the sign of a scalar product can provide the reciprocal "orientation" between two vectors or surface normals.

  But I was asking if the surface points inside or outside a VOLUME, not its orientation relative to another one.

  What I don't know is if in GiD there are some already build in functions to avoid the use of computational geometry routines and calculation of area around spherical angles . to detect if a free point in space is inside or outside a volume (not easily the convex hull defined from some of his points).

  And since GiD is a solid modeller I was thinking of some of the routines used in Boolean operation with volumes, or something similar. May be in a future version it could be an information provided, I don't know .

  The information "SAME1ST DIFF1ST" doesn't offer me what I was looking for because it tells me only if the orientation of a surface is consistent with an initial reciprocal orientation between the normal of surface 1 and the z axis.

  At the end so is still a "human" choice to say if a normal to a surface is pointing inside or outside a volume.

  Sorry for the long mail.

  Thanks in any case.










  Andrea Calaon


  Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
  Southampton, Hampshire
  SO40 7AA, UK
  Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
  Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
  Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
  E-mail: ...

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                  [GiDlist] a question about postprocess

Send by: edodo
On: Thu Apr 10 04:03:02 CEST 2003



Hi,all

How can I display remesh(move element)'s result in gid?

Thanks
 				

        edodo
        fea at eyou.com
          2003-04-10






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                  [GiDlist] Capability of GiDin simulation of  Fluid-structure interaction.

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Thu Apr 10 11:03:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD Teams/GiD users

    How about GiD capabilities in Fluid-structure Interaction (FSI). By using usual mesh data at each time step, in your view, is  it satisfactory to display moving meshes?  Could you give some links to the existing examples in this field? Thank you in advanced.

Bests,
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                              [GiDlist] Principal stress components Si, Sii and Siii from Post Processor

Send by: LEWIS, RANDEL E
On: Thu Apr 10 16:59:03 CEST 2003



I recieved confirmation from Miguel, in reply to my previous question
(text copied at bottom of this email), that the Post Processor values
Si, Sii and Siii are the principal stresses.  However, I find the values
calculated differ from those obtained from the roots of the matrix
determinant polynomial S^3 - I1*S^2 + I2S - I3 = 0 where I1, I2 and I3
are the first, second and third invariants of the Cauchy stress tensor.
The values I calculate (which agree with those from the program which
generated the X, Y and Z average stress components shown below) are:  S1
= 1.74E4, S2 = 7.55E3 and S3 = 6.68E3 as compared to GiD's values of Si
= 1.61E4, Sii = 1.13E4 and Siii = 4.26E3.
 
How does GiD calculate these values?
 
 
 
 
 

Yes, 

they are the main stresses of the tensor matrix.

given a matrix result, GiD calculates its eigen values and eigen
vectors. Si, Sii, Siii are ordered by its eigen values. yes, sorry, the
documentation is too brief about this question, we'll include an
explanation about this in the documentation.

miguel

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                                          [GiDlist] Principal stress components Si, Sii and Siii from Post Processor

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Apr 10 19:08:03 CEST 2003



MessageYour result file have an error: The order of your labels "SXZ" "SYZ" (and values) is bad, must be swapped to "SYZ" "SXZ", 
as is explained in the GiD help (Postprocess data files):
" for Matrix results: six components (3D models)
3D:  result_number_i Sxx_value Syy_value Szz_value Sxy_value Syz_value Sxz_value"

If you recalculate the roots of the matrix determinant polynomial, swapping this two values, then are obtained the GiD values of Si = 1.61E4, Sii = 1.13E4 and Siii = 4.26E3.
In fact, GiD not solve this cubic ecuation, because not only requires the eigenvalues, also requires the eigenvectors. It uses a Jacobi numerical method.

Regards
Enrique Escolano
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                              [GiDlist] Principal stress components Si, Sii and Siii from Post Processor

Send by: LEWIS, RANDEL E
On: Thu Apr 10 22:55:02 CEST 2003



Thanks Enrique,
 
I missed that subtle difference between GiD's expected order for shear
components and the order in which my solver program output them.
 
Randy

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Enrique Escolano [mailto:escolano at cimne.upc.es] 
	Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:00 PM
	To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
	Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Principal stress components Si, Sii and
Siii from Post Processor
	
	
	Your result file have an error: The order of your labels "SXZ"
"SYZ" (and values) is bad, must be swapped to "SYZ" "SXZ", 
	as is explained in the GiD help (Postprocess data files):
	" for Matrix results: six components (3D models)
	3D:  result_number_i Sxx_value Syy_value Szz_value Sxy_value
Syz_value Sxz_value"
	 
	If you recalculate the roots of the matrix determinant
polynomial, swapping this two values, then are obtained the GiD values
of Si = 1.61E4, Sii = 1.13E4 and Siii = 4.26E3.
	In fact, GiD not solve this cubic ecuation, because not only
requires the eigenvalues, also requires the eigenvectors. It uses a
Jacobi numerical method.
	 
	Regards
	Enrique Escolano

		 

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                  [GiDlist] oficial version for Mac OSX

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Apr 11 16:08:02 CEST 2003



The first oficial version of GiD, 7.2.1, for Mac OS X is available
for download at:
ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid/MacOSX/GiD7.2.1Install.dmg 

Please take a look to 
ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid/MacOSX/ReadMe.txt

To run this GiD version in your Mac OS X 
you will need:

Mac OS X 10.2.1 (http://www.apple.com/macosx)
a X11 window system like Apple's X11, version 
0.2 or greater, or XDarwin, at last 4.2.1.

Apple's X11 can be downloaded from:
       http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11...

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                  [GiDlist] Hotkey to rotation and zoom

Send by: Jonas Forssell
On: Sun Apr 13 14:04:02 CEST 2003



Hello, Many pre/postprocessors and CAD programs have a hotkey (usually CTRL) which together with the mouse allows rotation and zooming at any time during the creation process. In GID it seems I need to select the trackball every time I'd like to do this which in my mind makes it a bit more cumbersome. Is there any alternative way available in GID, similar to the hotkey? Thanks/Jonas Forssell, Gothenburg, Sweden
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                              [GiDlist] Hotkey to rotation and zoom

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Sun Apr 13 17:38:01 CEST 2003



Hi,

there are some already defined bindings up line 571 in tclfile-opengl file
in the 'scripts' directory, which uses the second and third button of
the mouse to do a dynamic zoom and pan, respectively.
They can be activated by uncommenting the following variable
set GidPriv(havecontextualbutton) 1
in line 27 fo ConfigureProgram.tcl, in the scripts directory.
You can define your own bindings too, in the same tclfile-opengl file.


miguel

Jonas Forssell wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Many pre/postprocessors and CAD programs have a hotkey (usually CTRL) which together with the mouse allows rotation and zooming at
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                              [GiDlist] Hotkey to rotation and zoom

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 14 11:11:13 CEST 2003



You can create a "macro" (utilities->graphical->Macros...) to a fast access with a key to this functions:

for example, set this shorcuts:
"F3" to a macro named "pan" with this macro code: dynamicpan
"F4" to a macro named "zoom" with this macro code: zoom dynamic
"F5" to a macro name "rotate" with the code: rotate trackball



Regards
Enrique Escolano
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jonas Forssell 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:03 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Hotkey to rotation and zoom


  Hello,

  Many pre/postprocessors and CAD programs have a hotkey (usually CTRL) which together with the mouse allows rotation and zooming at any time during the creation process.

  In GID it seems I need to select the trackball every time I'd like to do this which in my mind makes it a bit more cumbersome.

  Is there any alternative way available in GID, similar to the hotkey?

  Thanks
  /Jonas Forssell, Gothenburg, Sweden
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                              [GiDlist] Hotkey to rotation and zoom

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Mon Apr 14 17:50:02 CEST 2003



 
   Hello,
 
   The recommended solution, as Enrique pointed out, is to use macros.
However
it is possible to modify line 29 in file:
 
      <GiD installation>/scripts/ConfigureProgram.tcl>
 
from:
 
    -------------------------------------
   #set GidPriv(ChangeButtonMeaning) 1
-------------------------------------------------
 
   into
 
--------------------------------------------------
set GidPriv(ChangeButtonMeaning) 1
---------------------------------------------------
 
It permmits to achieve interesting effects with the mouse central and
right buttons.
 
  Regards, 

--
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http://www.compassis.com...

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                                          [GiDlist] Hotkey to rotation and zoom

Send by: Jonas Forssell
On: Mon Apr 14 20:54:02 CEST 2003



 
 Ramon_Ribó <ramsan at compassis.com> wrote:    Hello,    The recommended solution, as Enrique pointed out, is to use macros. Howeverit is possible to modify line 29 in file:       <GiD installation>/scripts/ConfigureProgram.tcl> from:     -------------------------------------   #set GidPriv(ChangeButtonMeaning) 1-------------------------------------------------    into --------------------------------------------------set GidPriv(ChangeButtonMeaning) 1--------------------------------------------------- It permmits to achieve interesting effects with the mouse central and right buttons.   Regards, 
--
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                  [GiDlist] Shell element stress and strain plotting

Send by: Jonas Forssell
On: Sun Apr 13 14:09:01 CEST 2003



Hello, I'm using shell elements with several integration points through the thickness. In the current version of GID (7), I can only find that one stress or strain result through the thickness is allowed. Is there a way of showing more results in the element? A shell element under bending for example would show compression on one side and tension on the other side. Currently, I am using up to 5 integration points through the thickness in triangular and quadilateral shell elements. Thanks/Jonas Forssell, Gothenburg, Sweden
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                              [GiDlist] Shell element stress and strain plotting

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 14 11:08:02 CEST 2003



A GiD triangle or quadrilateral is an element without thickness (a thickness can be set using a condition or material pointing to the element)
Must use some trick to show a compression in a side and tension at the other side, for example write, for postprocess use only, a mesh *.flavia.msh with duplicated nodes and triangles. If exists a file named *.flavia.msh, then, changing to postprocess the preprocess mesh is avoided, and GiD postprocess use this alternative mesh.

Enrique Escolano
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                              [GiDlist] Shell element stress and strain plotting

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Mon Apr 14 17:58:02 CEST 2003



 
   Hello,
 
   GiD does not impose any limitation to the number of layers of
integration points in
the planar element. You just must use a different result name for every
layer. For example,
you can have results names:
 
     "Stresses layer 1"
     "Stresses layer 2"
     ....
 
   And you will be able to visualize all of them in the postprocess.
 
  Additionally, you can also use TCL to change the postprocessing menus,
so as to find
a more natural way of presenting the results to the final user.
 
  Regards,

--
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http://www.compassis.com <http://www.compassis.com/...

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                                          [GiDlist] Shell element stress and strain plotting

Send by: Jonas Forssell
On: Mon Apr 14 20:57:02 CEST 2003



Good idea!
Thanks for the help all of you.
/Jonas
 Ramon_Ribó <ramsan at compassis.com> wrote:    Hello,    GiD does not impose any limitation to the number of layers of integration points inthe planar element. You just must use a different result name for every layer. For example,you can have results names:      "Stresses layer 1"     "Stresses layer 2"     ....    And you will be able to visualize all of them in the postprocess.   Additionally, you can also use TCL to change the postprocessing menus, so as to finda more natural way of presenting the results to the final user.   Regards,
--
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                  [GiDlist] A better Sphere mesh?

Send by: Oguz Tanzer
On: Mon Apr 14 01:24:02 CEST 2003



Hello,
I generated a mesh of a Sphere using the ready-made
"Sphere" Geometry in the toolbar and the resulting
mesh has more triangles (seen on the boundary) near
the "circle lines" defining the sphere.

How can I get a more "homogeneous distribution" of the
triangles on the sphere?

Can it be done with some adjustment of mesh quality
parameters? Or anything else?
Thanks.
Oguz-


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                              [GiDlist] A better Sphere mesh?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 14 12:09:01 CEST 2003



Try to assign manually the same unstructured  mesh size (menu
Meshing->Assign unstruct. sizes) to all entities: lines, sufaces and
volumes, and unselect the "automatic correct sizes" mesh preference
(utilities->preferences-Meshing).

You can also select the preference to mesh using "Rsurf" instead "Rfast", to
try to obtain a best triangle quality in
non-uniform parameterized surfaces.

Enrique
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                  [GiDlist] a question about postprocess

Send by: edodo
On: Mon Apr 14 11:39:01 CEST 2003



Hi ,all

	Can you help me? 

======= 2003-04-10 10:09:00 您在来信中写道:=======

>Hi,all
>
>How can I display remesh(move element)'s result in gid?
>
>Thanks
> 				
>
>        edodo
>        fea at eyou.com
>          2003-04-10
>
>
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                              [GiDlist] a question about postprocess

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 14 12:10:49 CEST 2003



I don't understand your question.
If you have a mesh with different nodes location in the time (but the
same element connectivities), you can write a results file wiht a nodes
displacement vector result, and display an animation of the mesh, deformated
with this vector result.

Enrique

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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] a question about postprocess


> Hi ,all
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                              [GiDlist] a question about postprocess

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Mon Apr 14 18:21:01 CEST 2003



You can write in flavia.res displazaments over nodes in every iteration
or step time :

 Result "Displacements" "movement"           3 Vector OnNodes

in this sample, "3" is the iteration or step time. In the post-process
you can see animate deform etc...

I hope help you.
In the post :. view results -- deformation
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                  [GiDlist] how to count the number of 3D elems in a volume

Send by: Andres Peratta
On: Tue Apr 15 01:38:01 CEST 2003



Hi there !
could you give me a hint ?
I need to write a table of volumes in my .bas file.
The table should have Nvol entries,
where Nvol is the number of volumes in the project.
Each record of the table should contain :
(i) the volume label and (ii) the number of 3D elements within that volume
( hexahedra or tetrahedra ).

The additional problem is that some volumes might not be meshed in volume,
that is, only their adjacent surfaces might have a mesh of 2D elems.
For those volumes, the number of 3D elements should be cero.
Do you know any way to write such a table in the bas file ?
thanks in advance,
Andres

PS: Here are the tcl procedures that I use at the moment ,
in order to get some information about volumes:

# This prints some information about volumes
proc master_slave_materials {} {
    set VolSurf [.central.s info list_entities volumes 1:[NVol]]
    return $VolSurf
}

# This prints the number of volumes
proc NVol { } {
    set a [.central.s info list_entities Status]
    regexp -nocase {number of volumes: ([0-9]+)} $a none num
    return $num
}

but I can't find the number of elems inside a volume from them.


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                              [GiDlist] how to count the number of 3D elems in a volume

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Apr 15 10:23:01 CEST 2003



You can apply a condition to all volumes with a autocalculated field
#FUNC#(NumEntity)

for example with this field (can be hidden)
Question: Volume_Num#FUNC#(NumEntity)
Value:0
state: hidden

This set automatically the field value with the geometric entity number. The
conditions are transferred to the volume
elements generated.

Regards
Enrique Escolano

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From: "Andres Peratta" <andres at wessex.ac.uk>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:32 AM
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                  [GiDlist] a question about postprocess

Send by: edodo
On: Tue Apr 15 03:03:02 CEST 2003



Pablo Perez del Castillo,

    Thanks.
     I want to display a results in Gid which has the different nodes belong to the same number of element.It 's mean that a remesh or move element question.
    Can I do it.

Advanced thanks





You can write in flavia.res displazaments over nodes in every iteration or step time : 
 Result "Displacements" "movement"           3 Vector OnNodes 
in this sample, "3" is the iteration or step time. In the post-process you can see animate deform etc... 
I hope help you. 
In the post :. view results -- deformation 

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 

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                  [GiDlist] Re: a question about postprocess

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Tue Apr 15 09:31:02 CEST 2003



yes, you can do it. Gid will move element in postprocess with iteraction
or time step. Even if you wish the final deform mesh for another
analisys, you can write another *.msh with the new coordinates.





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                  [GiDlist] Re: a question about postprocess

Send by: edodo
On: Tue Apr 15 09:58:02 CEST 2003



Pablo Perez del Castillo,

	Thanks.
    Can you give me an example.

======= 2003-04-15 09:29:00 您在来信中写道:=======

>yes, you can do it. Gid will move element in postprocess with iteraction
>or time step. Even if you wish the final deform mesh for another
>analisys, you can write another *.msh with the new coordinates.
>
>
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                                    AW: [GiDlist] Re: a question about postprocess

Send by: Theo Lohschelder
On: Tue Apr 15 10:32:02 CEST 2003



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Pablo Perez del Castillo,

	Thanks.
    Can you give me an example.

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                                                [GiDlist] Re: a question about postprocess

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Apr 15 18:08:02 CEST 2003



It is possible to self-unsubscribe from the GiDlist
http://www.gidhome.com/mailman/listinfo/gidlist

Fill the edit Options with your e-mail and click the button.

To unsuscript set your password and clik Unsubscribe
(If you've lost your password, click "Email My Password To Me")

Enrique Escolano

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To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: AW: [GiDlist] Re: a question about postprocess


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                              [GiDlist] Re: a question about postprocess

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Tue Apr 15 18:10:02 CEST 2003



the atached file has a sample

i hope help you

edodo escribió:

> Pablo Perez del Castillo,
>
>         Thanks.
>     Can you give me an example.
>
> ======= 2003-04-15 09:29:00 ÄúÔÚÀ´ÐÅÖÐдµÀ£º=======
>
> >yes, you can do it. Gid will move element in postprocess with iteraction
> >or time step. Even if you wish the final deform mesh for another
> >analisys, you can write another *.msh with the new coordinates.
> >
>...

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                  [GiDlist] a question about Graphs in postprocess

Send by: edodo
On: Tue Apr 15 10:51:02 CEST 2003



HI,all
    I have wrote a result files of msh and res in attached files.I want to show a border graph.I want to set x-axis :x variation and y-axis par1,then  select the border.But the Gid tell me that there have something wrong.Can you help me. 
Advanced Thanks

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                  [GiDlist] interpolation

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Tue Apr 15 14:17:01 CEST 2003



Hi Gidlist

If I have a solution to a problem giving the values at the nodes of a 3D
mesh is there a simple way of interpolating these values onto a new mesh of
the same volume but with a new mesh ?
I have a feeling that this may require determining which element a point
p(x,y,z) resides inside? if so how can this be done.

Any help, references, URL's etc would be most helpful.

Regards
Mark

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                              [GiDlist] interpolation

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Apr 15 17:23:01 CEST 2003



You must use some algorithm to search some old nodes near your new point to
interpolate.
There is a link to a C++ source code of a kd-tree data structure for this
efficient search.
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~mount/ANN/

With this near nodes, you can make some weighted average to calculate the
new value, or
can find the element containg the point, and use some shape functions to
interpolate.

Note: if the node is inside a element, then it must be at the interior half
plane foreach element face

For example, for an tetrahedral with 3 edge vectors V1,V2,V3 trought the
node Po, and a point P
must solve this 3x3 linear equation sytem:  P-Po=a*V1+b*V2+c*V3
The P point is inside if a+b+c<=1

Note: It can be too hard try foreach mesh element if the point is
inside.Must find first only a small group
of candidate elements (with a Kd-tree for example).

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Smith" <...

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                              [GiDlist] interpolation

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Tue Apr 15 17:36:02 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   The classical solution to this problem is:

   - Find the element in the 2nd mesh where the node belongs
   - Calculate the inverse of the FEM shape functions for the 1st mesh
node
   - Find the value of the function in the node by using the calculated
shape
     functions

   The problem with this algorithm is the efficiency. You can go from a
few
seconds to a several hours or days to do the same task depending on the
implementation.

   As a rule of thumb, NEVER try to calculate for every element in the
mesh
the shape funtions to decide if the node is inside. A crude octree, if
it is
not too well implemented, can be slow for big meshes. The best solution
is
probably a combination of octree search and "mesh walking" maintaining a
used
elements history.

   Its plenty of literature of this in the Internet (in fact, Internet
is
plenty of everything).

   Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
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                  [GiDlist] Re: how to count the number of 3D elems in a volume

Send by: Andres Peratta
On: Tue Apr 15 15:40:02 CEST 2003



Enrique, thank you very much for your help.
I'd like to know if it is possible to assign the number of volumes
to a variable in a bas file.

For example, something like :
*set var N=tcl(Nvol)

where Nvol is this tcl procedure :

proc NVol { } {
    set a [.central.s info list_entities Status]
    regexp -nocase {number of volumes: ([0-9]+)} $a none num
    return $num
}
------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm still trying to build the table of volumes in the output file.
To do so, I included this condition in the .cnd file 
which assigns volume labels to mesh elems:

NUMBER: 1 CONDITION: VolId
Question: Volume_Num#FUNC#(NumEntity)
Value:0
state: hidden
END CONDITION

------------------------------------------------------------------------
And here are the lines that I am trying to use
in my bas file, in order to get a table of volumes and their number of elems
as an output.
This would work provided that the variable Nvol is initialized with the 
number of volumes created in the project, and this is what I don't know how
to do.

*set elems(Tetrahedra)
*set cond VolId
*for(vol=1;vol<=Nvol;vol=vol+1)
   *set var NelemsVol=0
   *loop elems
      *if(cond(1,int) == vol)
        *set var NelemsVol = NelemsVol + 1 
      *end if
   *end
   Volume = *vol ; Number of elems = *NelemsVol
*end

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

In general, is there any way to assign the result of a tcl function to a variable in a bas file ?

Sorry to bother you, and thank you very much for your help
best regards,
Andres



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                              [GiDlist] Re: how to count the number of 3D elems in a volume

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Apr 15 16:53:01 CEST 2003



Sorry, by now is not available to return a value from a tcl procedure to a
*bas variable.

To solve your problem, you can ask GiD about the applied conditions, from a
tcl procedure,
instead from the bas file, then reorder this information and print as
desired
(the tcl returned value is printed directly to the output file).

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andres Peratta" <andres at wessex.ac.uk>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Re: how to count the number of 3D elems in a volume


>...

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                  [GiDlist] Re: a question about postprocess

Send by: edodo
On: Wed Apr 16 08:43:01 CEST 2003



Dear,sir/madam,Pablo Perez del Castillo

	Thanks.
    Maybe You misapprehend my idea.Or I didn't tell clearly.
    I want to display a result which the element would be changed in different step.In other words.The same number of element will be made by differnet number of node when the time change.
     Thanks

======= 2003-04-15 18:07:00 You wrote£º=======

>the atached file has a sample
>
>i hope help you
>
>edodo escribió:
>
>> Pablo Perez del Castillo,
>>
>>         Thanks.
>>     Can you give me an example.
>>
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                  [GiDlist] Hints to use gid

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Thu Apr 17 17:51:01 CEST 2003



HI!I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE WAY IS TO CREATE A PARAMETRIC SURFACE,
i.e. A GEOMETRIC OBJECT WHICH DEPENDS ON TWO PARAMETERS.
ALSO WHAT THE WAY IS TO CREATE A PYRAMIDAL VOLUME MESH, WHICH HAS GOT A
QUADRILATERAL STRUCTURED SURFACE MESH BASE.
PLEASE SEND ME SOME HINTS OR THE E-MAIL OF SOMEONE WHO COULD HELP ME.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
GERO






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                              [GiDlist] Hints to use gid

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Apr 17 19:23:01 CEST 2003



It is not possible to create with GiD a parametric model, but if your
geometry is very simple, you
can create a tcl procedure to reconstruct it, with GiD commands, from some
parameters.

You can see a tcl sample, explaining the creation of the GiD "Parametric
Line" window
(menu Geometry->Create->Parametric Line)

Download the Advanced course documentation (
http://gid.cimne.com/2002/material_courses.subst )
Read the chapter 3 - Extending GiD with Tcl/Tk

Regards
Enrique escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: <kalo81 at virgilio.it...

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                              [GiDlist] Could we create Geometric model on GiD by batch command?

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Mon Apr 21 00:45:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD Team,

    In place of drawing tools, could we create geometric models like volume, surface, line by batch command like we did in standard FEA? If yes, how to do so. 

i.e.  Just let user input some parameters in problem data menu then let GiD automatically create some simple geometric models like box, multi-boxes or planes. Thanks in advanced.

Bests,
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Send by: Javier Mora
On: Mon Apr 21 17:08:37 CEST 2003



You can do it by using tcl/tk commands. Dowload the Advanced Course Material
in http://www.gidhome.com/2002/material_courses.subst
where you will find a good example for this.

You can also check the attached example. Create a problemtype called
prisma.gid and include the attached tcl file (the gif picture can help too).

Regards,
j




  -----Mensaje original-----
De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
[mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Could we create Geometric model on GiD by batch command?

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Tue Apr 22 07:47:01 CEST 2003



Hallo Mora,

    Thank you for your useful guide. : )

Bests,
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Javier Mora 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 5:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [GiDlist] Could we create Geometric model on GiD by batch command?


  You can do it by using tcl/tk commands. Dowload the Advanced Course Material in http://www.gidhome.com/2002/material_courses.subst
  where you will find a good example for this.

  You can also check the attached example. Create a problemtype called prisma.gid and include the attached tcl file (the gif picture can help too).

  Regards,
  j




    -----Mensaje original-----
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                  [GiDlist] Why I cann't open my GID

Send by: Zhiwei Niu
On: Mon Apr 21 14:23:01 CEST 2003



Hi,everyone
today I installed my computer with Chinese WINDOWSXP, and then resintall GID Ver 6.3.0b. When i double the GID icon to open it, there is a error information window showed to tell me "SwapBuffers failed". After i click ok, the GID was closed. why is it? 

best wishes to you






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                              [GiDlist] Why I cann't open my GID

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 21 17:08:01 CEST 2003



Try to deactivate the graphic card acceleration from Windows:

Screen properties- Configuration - Advanced settings... - Solve problems -
Hardware acceleration: None

In other hand, the chinese language can also create in GiD some encoding
problem (using filenames with non ascii characters). It is more recommended
for example to use a english XP.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zhiwei Niu" <nzwyc at sina.com>
To: "gid" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 2:22 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Why I cann't open my GID


>...

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                              [GiDlist] Why I cann't open my GID

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Apr 22 12:38:28 CEST 2003



have you tried with the latest drivers for your graphic card?
which graphic card are you using?
The latest GiD version is 7.2 ( ftp://gid.cimne.upc.es/pub/gid/Windows/).
have you tried with 'Start menu'->programs->GiD(...)->gid safe mode ?

You can always change to 256 colors.

bye

miguel

Zhiwei Niu wrote:
> 
> Hi,everyone
> today I installed my computer with Chinese WINDOWSXP, and then resintall GID Ver 6.3.0b. When i double the GID icon to open it, there is a error information window showed to tell me "SwapBuffers failed". After i click ok, the GID was closed. why is it?
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                              [GiDlist] Trouble exporting pictures

Send by: Christophe Louis
On: Mon Apr 21 17:57:01 CEST 2003



Hello,

I am currently using GiD 7.1 and I have trouble using the command

Files>Print to file>EPS Vectorial.

The picture is correctly exported but the legend of the figure and its title are not (the characters are modified and placed at the wrong position). Is this a known bug? 

Thanks

Christophe Louis
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Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Apr 22 12:40:26 CEST 2003



no it is not know, but now it is!
thanks, i'll lok into it.

miguel

> Christophe Louis wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am currently using GiD 7.1 and I have trouble using the command
> 
> Files>Print to file>EPS Vectorial.
> 
> The picture is correctly exported but the legend of the figure and its title are not (the characters are modified and placed at
> the wrong position). Is this a known bug?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Christophe Louis

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau    ...

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                  [GiDlist] Generation of nodes only

Send by: Arturo di Gioia
On: Tue Apr 22 19:42:03 CEST 2003



Hi,
I've got a problem with GiD 7.2.
I have to generate a mesh for my code. I need a surface mesh and a
points cloud over the volume. I wrote a module that exports the surface
mesh and the nodes of a tethraedral volume mesh generated in GiD. It
works well, but it's slow when the mesh gets serious. I saw the
possibility to generate only the nodes of the internal mesh, but if I
try to do it with a fine mesh (~100000 triangles, ~1000000 tetrahedra),
I get an error saying

 

Last diagnostics from tetrahedra mesher:
  generating only points
  ***************************************
  *******************************
  For the Faces+Coordinates file:
  *******************************
  please enter file name
 please increase mpoin, needed at least:    67202




Less aggressive settings give the error



Last diagnostics from tetrahedra mesher:
  after first change

 generated total surface mesh for the
 all surfaces before 3-d gg contains:
 nr. of faces    nface=     75600
 nr. of points   npoin=     37802

  please increase mboun, needed:  37802
  ==> stopped



Everything works with a very coarse mesh. Is there any quick workaround
to this? Thanks

-- 
Arturo di Gioia <...

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                              [GiDlist] Generation of nodes only

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Apr 22 20:38:02 CEST 2003



The generator of "only points" in a volume is an external mesher, and it
have fixed limits
in the size of some arrays. It is deprecated, and for future versions is
planned to include
a internal "only points" generator.

You must use by now the tetrahedral generator.

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arturo di Gioia" <arturo.digioia at ing.unitn.it>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 7:45 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Generation of nodes only


> Hi,
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                  [GiDlist] Symmetric meshes

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Wed Apr 23 11:46:01 CEST 2003



Hi! What is the way to create symmetric meshes?
Thanks in advance! 
Gero.




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                              [GiDlist] Symmetric meshes

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 23 13:11:02 CEST 2003



You can create a mirror of the mesh elements (utility copy).

Note: you must then apply the conditions and materials directly to the mesh.

Enrique Escolano
----- Original Message -----
From: <kalo81 at virgilio.it>
To: "GIDLIST" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Symmetric meshes


> Hi! What is the way to create symmetric meshes?
> Thanks in advance!
> Gero.
>
> _______________________________________________
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                              [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: ieea
On: Wed Apr 23 12:21:01 CEST 2003



Dear All,
Sometimes, I am using GID on windows NT 4.0 : some problems appear,
especially,
it is no more possible to select, on a GID's geometry, several lines
together (or surfaces together)
using the mouse.
In fact, the selection of entities is only possible entity by entity.

Is it a known bug ?
Is there a solution (GID 7.2 of course, but an other one if possible !)
?

Thank you in advance.

G.W.R. Geis




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                                          [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 23 13:11:57 CEST 2003



This bug is unknown. In fact, GiD works ok on Win NT 4.0 in our tests.

In any case, if GiD 7.2 works in your system, what's the problem to update?
The password is the same

Enrique Escolano
----- Original Message -----
From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr>
To: "GID" <GiDlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:16 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0


> Dear All,
> Sometimes, I am using GID on windows NT 4.0 : some problems appear,
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                                                      [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: ieea
On: Wed Apr 23 16:19:02 CEST 2003



Thank you for your message.

I cannot explain why this bug is, but it is !
I ever installed a GID 7.1 version on a Windows NT 4.0 network, it was running,
but now, in an other WNT4.0 network, this bug appears !!

At the moment, I prefer to use the GID 7.1 version, because all my software is
developed from GID 7.1
Especially, the GID 7.2 version has a little problem with the automatic reading
of the *.flavia.msh (cf. Problem with *.flavia.msh in GID 7.2 - 21/03/03). I
should be necessary for me to change some lines specifically for the 7.2
version, and change again for the 7.3 version...
In fact I am waiting for the next version of GID...

G.W.R. Geis

Enrique Escolano a écrit :

>...

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                                                      [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Wed Apr 23 18:22:02 CEST 2003



Hello;
In Windows 2000 (pro) (kernell NT), and GID 7.2 has the same bug when select
several lines together.
Pablo

ieea escribió:

> Thank you for your message.
>
> I cannot explain why this bug is, but it is !
> I ever installed a GID 7.1 version on a Windows NT 4.0 network, it was running,
> but now, in an other WNT4.0 network, this bug appears !!
>
> At the moment, I prefer to use the GID 7.1 version, because all my software is
> developed from GID 7.1
> Especially, the GID 7.2 version has a little problem with the automatic reading
>...

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                                                      [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 23 19:08:01 CEST 2003



I' develop under Windows 2000 professional, and this problem not appears in
any of our machines!!

For example (using GiD 7.1 or 7.2): It fail if you create some lines, and
try to list it selecting all ?

It is, can be, a redraw problem?

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Perez del Castillo" <pablopdc at terra.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0


> Hello;
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                                                      [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Wed Apr 23 20:01:01 CEST 2003



Hello Enrique; you are right.
It is not happening with Gid tools, but if i use my tool (it is a tcl to create
splines similar to NACA profiles) and then i try to select all to get nurbs, i
must do it one to one. I tried to redraw, but nothin change. I guess, we have to
repair our tcl code.
Thanks
Pablo

Enrique Escolano escribió:

> I' develop under Windows 2000 professional, and this problem not appears in
> any of our machines!!
>
> For example (using GiD 7.1 or 7.2): It fail if you create some lines, and
> try to list it selecting all ?
>
> It is, can be, a redraw problem?
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                                                      [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 23 22:08:02 CEST 2003



Can you send some model, with this type of nurblines, to check it?

Enrique

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Perez del Castillo" <pablopdc at terra.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0


> Hello Enrique; you are right.
> It is not happening with Gid tools, but if i use my tool (it is a tcl to
create
> splines similar to NACA profiles) and then i try to select all to get
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                                                      [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Thu Apr 24 10:57:01 CEST 2003



Hello Enrique;
Attached file with nurbs lines.

It is curious, i tried to build a nurbs surface with those lines (attached file)
in two diferents PC with "geometry>create>nurbs_surface>parallel_lines" .
Results:
-PC with Windows 2000 pro (over windows 95), GID 7.2 , it works fine (select all
with window).
-PC with Windows 2000 pro, GID 7.2, i had to select line to line.

Pablo.

Nota: el sistema operativo win2000 instalado sobre win95, me selecciona todas
por ventana y lo hace perfecto. El mismo fichero en el pc con win2000 sobre un
disco duro formateado, no selecciona nada por ventana, debo picar una a una.

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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Apr 24 12:23:01 CEST 2003



Hello Pablo.
In my computer your sample works fine.

This seems a graphic card problem.
Try to use software OpenGL instead hardware
Run GiD from the start button of Windows  ... GiD7.2-> GiD safe mode,  and
select software OpenGL (this selection is only necessary one  time)

Enrique

Nota: Mi sistema operativo no ha sido instalado encima de otro previo, el
problema no tiene nada
que ver con haber tenido un sistema win95 previo.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Perez del Castillo" <pablopdc at terra.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                              [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: ieea
On: Thu Apr 24 10:03:01 CEST 2003



a IGES file is joined.
It has been made from a GID geometry saved as a IGES format file.
This file induces the bug on WNT4.0
Bye,
G.W.R.Geis
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Translator GID - IGES                                                   S0000001
1H,,1H;,3HGID,75HC:/Documents and Settings/Administrateur/Mes documents/G0000001
Johann/test/cube.igs,,,32,,,,,,1,,,1,0,,0,0,,5HCIMNE,9,,;               G0000002
     128       1                       1                                D0000001
     128                      12                        NURBSURF       1D0000002
     128      13                       1                                D0000003
     128                      13                        NURBSURF       2D0000004
     128      26                       1                                D0000005
     128                      14                        NURBSURF       3D0000006
     128      40                       1                                D0000007
     128                      13                        NURBSURF       4D0000008
     128      53                       1                                D0000009
     128                      13                        NURBSURF       5D0000010
     128      66                       1                                D0000011
     128                      13                        NURBSURF       6D0000012
128,4,4,3,3,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.414105,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0.5,1,1,        1P0000001
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,-0.234302,       1P0000002
1.064019,-0.03,-0.147367,1.064019,-0.03,-0.024367,1.064019,            1P0000003
-0.03,0.098633,1.064019,-0.03,0.175698,1.064019,-0.03,-0.234302,       1P0000004
0.970619,-0.03,-0.147367,0.970619,-0.03,-0.024367,0.970619,            1P0000005
-0.03,0.098633,0.970619,-0.03,0.175698,0.970619,-0.03,-0.234302,       1P0000006
0.830519,-0.03,-0.147367,0.830519,-0.03,-0.024367,0.830519,            1P0000007
-0.03,0.098633,0.830519,-0.03,0.175698,0.830519,-0.03,-0.234302,       1P0000008
0.690419,-0.03,-0.147367,0.690419,-0.03,-0.024367,0.690419,            1P0000009
-0.03,0.098633,0.690419,-0.03,0.175698,0.690419,-0.03,-0.234302,       1P0000010
0.597019,-0.03,-0.147367,0.597019,-0.03,-0.024367,0.597019,            1P0000011
-0.03,0.098633,0.597019,-0.03,0.175698,0.597019,-0.03,0,1,0,1;         1P0000012
128,4,4,3,3,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.414105,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0.5,1,1,        3P0000013
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0.175698,        3P0000014
0.597019,-0.03,0.175698,0.597019,0.014634,0.175698,0.597018,           3P0000015
0.077784,0.175698,0.597019,0.140934,0.175698,0.597019,0.1805,          3P0000016
0.175698,0.690419,-0.03,0.175698,0.690419,0.014634,0.175698,           3P0000017
0.690418,0.077784,0.175698,0.690419,0.140934,0.175698,0.690419,        3P0000018
0.1805,0.175698,0.830518,-0.03,0.175698,0.830518,0.014634,             3P0000019
0.175698,0.830518,0.077784,0.175698,0.830518,0.140934,0.175698,        3P0000020
0.830518,0.1805,0.175698,0.970618,-0.03,0.175698,0.970618,             3P0000021
0.014634,0.175698,0.970618,0.077784,0.175698,0.970618,0.140934,        3P0000022
0.175698,0.970618,0.1805,0.175698,1.064019,-0.03,0.175698,             3P0000023
1.064019,0.014634,0.175698,1.064019,0.077784,0.175698,1.064019,        3P0000024
0.140934,0.175698,1.064019,0.1805,0,1,0,1;                             3P0000025
128,4,4,3,3,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.414105,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0.5,1,1,        5P0000026
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,-0.234302,       5P0000027
1.064019,-0.03,-0.234302,1.064019,0.014634,-0.234302,1.064019,         5P0000028
0.077784,-0.234302,1.064019,0.140934,-0.234302,1.064019,0.1805,        5P0000029
-0.234302,0.970619,-0.03,-0.234302,0.970619,0.014634,-0.234302,        5P0000030
0.970619,0.077784,-0.234302,0.970619,0.140934,-0.234302,               5P0000031
0.970619,0.1805,-0.234302,0.830519,-0.03,-0.234302,0.830519,           5P0000032
0.014634,-0.234302,0.830519,0.077784,-0.234302,0.830519,               5P0000033
0.140934,-0.234302,0.830519,0.1805,-0.234302,0.690419,-0.03,           5P0000034
-0.234302,0.690419,0.014634,-0.234302,0.690419,0.077784,               5P0000035
-0.234302,0.690419,0.140934,-0.234302,0.690419,0.1805,-0.234302,       5P0000036
0.597019,-0.03,-0.234302,0.597019,0.014634,-0.234302,0.597019,         5P0000037
0.077784,-0.234302,0.597019,0.140934,-0.234302,0.597019,0.1805,        5P0000038
0,1,0,1;                                                               5P0000039
128,4,4,3,3,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.414105,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0.5,1,1,        7P0000040
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,-0.234302,       7P0000041
1.064019,0.1805,-0.147367,1.064019,0.1805,-0.024367,1.064019,          7P0000042
0.1805,0.098633,1.064019,0.1805,0.175698,1.064019,0.1805,              7P0000043
-0.234302,0.970619,0.1805,-0.147367,0.970619,0.1805,-0.024367,         7P0000044
0.970619,0.1805,0.098633,0.970619,0.1805,0.175698,0.970619,            7P0000045
0.1805,-0.234302,0.830519,0.1805,-0.147367,0.830519,0.1805,            7P0000046
-0.024367,0.830519,0.1805,0.098633,0.830519,0.1805,0.175698,           7P0000047
0.830519,0.1805,-0.234302,0.690419,0.1805,-0.147367,0.690419,          7P0000048
0.1805,-0.024367,0.690419,0.1805,0.098633,0.690419,0.1805,             7P0000049
0.175698,0.690419,0.1805,-0.234302,0.597019,0.1805,-0.147367,          7P0000050
0.597019,0.1805,-0.024367,0.597019,0.1805,0.098633,0.597019,           7P0000051
0.1805,0.175698,0.597019,0.1805,0,1,0,1;                               7P0000052
128,4,4,3,3,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.414105,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0.5,1,1,        9P0000053
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,-0.234302,       9P0000054
0.597019,-0.03,-0.234302,0.597019,0.014634,-0.234302,0.597018,         9P0000055
0.077784,-0.234302,0.597019,0.140934,-0.234302,0.597019,0.1805,        9P0000056
-0.152302,0.597019,-0.03,-0.152302,0.597019,0.014634,-0.152302,        9P0000057
0.597019,0.077784,-0.152302,0.597019,0.140934,-0.152302,               9P0000058
0.597019,0.1805,-0.029302,0.597019,-0.03,-0.029302,0.597019,           9P0000059
0.014634,-0.029302,0.597019,0.077784,-0.029302,0.597019,               9P0000060
0.140934,-0.029302,0.597019,0.1805,0.093698,0.597019,-0.03,            9P0000061
0.093698,0.597019,0.014634,0.093698,0.597019,0.077784,0.093698,        9P0000062
0.597019,0.140934,0.093698,0.597019,0.1805,0.175698,0.597019,          9P0000063
-0.03,0.175698,0.597019,0.014634,0.175698,0.597018,0.077784,           9P0000064
0.175698,0.597019,0.140934,0.175698,0.597019,0.1805,0,1,0,1;           9P0000065
128,4,4,3,3,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.414105,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0.5,1,1,       11P0000066
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0.175698,       11P0000067
1.064019,-0.03,0.175698,1.064019,0.014634,0.175698,1.064019,          11P0000068
0.077784,0.175698,1.064019,0.140934,0.175698,1.064019,0.1805,         11P0000069
0.093698,1.064019,-0.03,0.093698,1.064019,0.014634,0.093698,          11P0000070
1.064019,0.077784,0.093698,1.064019,0.140934,0.093698,1.064019,       11P0000071
0.1805,-0.029302,1.064019,-0.03,-0.029302,1.064019,0.014634,          11P0000072
-0.029302,1.064019,0.077784,-0.029302,1.064019,0.140934,              11P0000073
-0.029302,1.064019,0.1805,-0.152302,1.064019,-0.03,-0.152302,         11P0000074
1.064019,0.014634,-0.152302,1.064019,0.077784,-0.152302,              11P0000075
1.064019,0.140934,-0.152302,1.064019,0.1805,-0.234302,1.064019,       11P0000076
-0.03,-0.234302,1.064019,0.014634,-0.234302,1.064019,0.077784,        11P0000077
-0.234302,1.064019,0.140934,-0.234302,1.064019,0.1805,0,1,0,1;        11P0000078
S0000001G0000002D0000012P0000078                                        T0000001
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                                          [GiDlist] GID 7.1 on Windows NT 4.0

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Apr 24 13:24:02 CEST 2003



I import your IGES file without problems with GiD7.1 or 7.2 in WinNT4.0 and
Win2000 professional.

Also, the multiple lines selection works ok with GiD7.1 and WinNT4.0 in my
machine.

I' unknown wath's the problem in your machine. The selection problem surely
is by the graphical card
(try deactivate graphic acceleration to solve),  but I do not have idea of
the import problem cause..

Enrique Escolano

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riginal Message -----
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To: "GID" <GiDlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                  [GiDlist] The NASA metallic almond

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Thu Apr 24 10:54:01 CEST 2003



Hi! My aim is to create "the NASA metallic almond", which is a parametric
surface. Theoretically i cold not do it by GiD; is there a particular method
to do it?
Best regards,
Gero




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                              [GiDlist] The NASA metallic almond

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Apr 24 11:53:01 CEST 2003



You can create an approximate surface:
for example, create a set of curves u=constant (can use
Geometry->Create->Parametric Line)
and create a nurbsurface "By parallel lines" with this set of curves.
(Geometry->Create->Nurbs Surface->Parallel lines)

You can also create it externally with some CAD, and import it, using IGES
or another intechange format.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: <kalo81 at virgilio.it>
To: "GIDLIST" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:52 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] The NASA metallic almond


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                              [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Fri Apr 25 12:50:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD Team,

    I need to transfer results from finite difference (finite volume) to GiD post.The results only provide at node and I require no element to make such computations. It's more convenient to transfer these results to node directly. Can I create a structured mesh with only points instead of hex elements? I tried but it failed,and finally I got unstructured mesh.

Bests,
Adisorn
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                                          [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Apr 25 13:53:01 CEST 2003



Hi,
if you want only to define the results over points you'll need 'point elements'
like the attached example.
The results/elements will be drawn as big points.
Use the Options->Geometry->Point options...' window to change its size, to
switch between the 'quick' look and the 'nice' look, and change its 'detail' level.

miguel

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                                                      [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Fri Apr 25 14:27:02 CEST 2003



Dear Miguel

    To transfer results from uniformly grid of FVM without any coupling
scheme, I definitely have to fixed position of points (in sense of uniform
grid in FVM calculations); therefore, it's necessary to create such a
structured grid. I also attach simple example for your infomation i.e. I
need points located at nodes of these hex elements. I tried to generate mesh
by 'point only' but only unstructured mesh is allowed as shown in fig 3.
Thanks in advanced.

Best regards,
Adisorn
----- Original Message ----- 
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                                                      [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Apr 25 14:53:02 CEST 2003



Can you attach an example?

miguel

Adisorn Owatsiriwong wrote:
> 
> Dear Miguel
> 
>     To transfer results from uniformly grid of FVM without any coupling
> scheme, I definitely have to fixed position of points (in sense of uniform
> grid in FVM calculations); therefore, it's necessary to create such a
> structured grid. I also attach simple example for your infomation i.e. I
> need points located at nodes of these hex elements. I tried to generate mesh
> by 'point only' but only unstructured mesh is allowed as shown in fig 3.
>...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Apr 25 15:08:01 CEST 2003



GiD is not speciallized in only nodes generation. Currently only can
generate unstructured and for volumes.

In other hand, generate also the elements (unneeded for your analysis) can
add some postprocess advantages: contour fill, cuts, graphs, etc not
availables with a "onlypoints" mesh.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adisorn Owatsiriwong" <dollarbulldog at hotmail.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?


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                                                      [GiDlist] Draw Local Axes in Post processing

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Mon Apr 28 08:38:01 CEST 2003



Hi GiD Team
   Could you Please show how to specify the local axes
in the post processing. I've tried as instructed in
on-line document but it's not working out.
OK let's say local axes for each element at a
centroid.
For example if I have values for local axes as:
x'=[1,0,0]
y'=[0,1,0]
z'=[0,0,1]

How to write the post for these vectors???

Many thanks

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                                                      [GiDlist] Draw Local Axes in Post processing

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 12:38:01 CEST 2003



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "VSayako Willy" <vilaysako at yahoo.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 8:37 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Draw Local Axes in Post processing


> 
> Hi GiD Team
>    Could you Please show how to specify the local axes
> in the post processing. I've tried as instructed in
> on-line document but it's not working out.
> OK let's say local axes for each element at a
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                                                      [GiDlist] Draw Local Axes in Post processing

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 13:09:02 CEST 2003



This is the rotation transform, defined by the euler angles, of a vector v. 
 
     




Enrique

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Enrique Escolano" <escolano at cimne.upc.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Draw Local Axes in Post processing


> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "VSayako Willy" <vilaysako at yahoo.com...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Draw Local Axes in Post processing

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 12:54:01 CEST 2003



The Euler angles is a sequence of counter-clockwise passive rotations; that is, the vector remains fixed while the coordinate axes are rotated--new vector components are computed in new coordinate frame. 
In your case with local axes equal to global axes, all the rotations (in radians) are zero

GiD Post Results File 1.0
Result "Local axes" "test" 1 LocalAxes OnNodes
Values
1 0 0 0 
2 0 0 0
...
End values

If your local axes are for example x'=y, y'= - x, z'=z , (90 degrees around z axe) then must write as euler angles 0 0 -pi/2

Enrique Escolano

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                                          [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Fri Apr 25 17:06:02 CEST 2003



 
    Hello,
 
   If the nodes follow a given ordering and there is only one block of
elements, the code that
you need to program to create the elements is really trivial. I am sure
that you can program
it in less that 20 lines of code (of TCL of course). Ask for more help
if you are not able to do it.
 
    Regards,

--
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http://www.compassis.com <http://www.compassis.com/>
ramsan at compassis.com
c/ Manuel Girona, 61 bajos   tel. +34 93 204 10 82
08034 Barcelona, Spain       fax. +34 93 204 19 09  

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                                                      [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Fri Apr 25 23:31:01 CEST 2003



MensajeDear GiD Teams, 

    Thank you for all useful answer, Thank also for Dr.Ribo. I am very new to tcl and it's so important to have all of your guidances. Anyway,  it means people need to use hex elements in transferring results from Finite Volume (in case they will not modify GiD), can anybody provide me a case study for this.

Best regards,
Adisorn


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ramon Ribó 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 5:04 PM
  Subject: RE: [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?



      Hello,

     If the nodes follow a given ordering and there is only one block of elements, the code that
  you need to program to create the elements is really trivial. I am sure that you can program
  it in less that 20 lines of code (of TCL of course). Ask for more help if you are not able to do it.

      Regards,
  --
  Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
  ...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 11:54:56 CEST 2003



MensajeThis is a small geometry example to obtain a structured hexahedral mesh. To create the mesh use Meshing->generate 
with any mesh size (this size is avoided because all number of mesh divisions is set by the structured mesh info)

GiD only generate hexahedrals in structured mode, it requires to divide the model in 6-faceted volumes), and then assign 
meshing structured volumes (and the number of divisions in each three directions).

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adisorn Owatsiriwong 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Can I create structured mesh with only points?


  Dear GiD Teams, 

      Thank you for all useful answer, Thank also for Dr.Ribo. I am very new to tcl and it's so important to have all of your guidances. Anyway,  it means people need to use hex elements in transferring results from Finite Volume (in case they will not modify GiD), can anybody provide me a case study for this.

  Best regards,
  Adisorn


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ramon Ribó 
    To: ...

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                  [GiDlist] Pyramidal Volume Mesh

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Sat Apr 26 11:02:01 CEST 2003



Hi, this is my problem: i mesh a surface with structured quadrilateral elements.
So i would like to mesh the volume with pyramidal meshes, which have got
as base the quadrilateral elements.
Can i do this?How?
Best regards,
Gero




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                              [GiDlist] Pyramidal Volume Mesh

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 11:54:02 CEST 2003



Currently GiD not generate pyramidal elements.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: <kalo81 at virgilio.it>
To: "GIDLIST" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Pyramidal Volume Mesh


> Hi, this is my problem: i mesh a surface with structured quadrilateral
elements.
> So i would like to mesh the volume with pyramidal meshes, which have got
> as base the quadrilateral elements.
> Can i do this?How?
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                  [GiDlist] how to get the library

Send by: Zhiwei Niu
On: Sun Apr 27 03:30:02 CEST 2003



everybody,hi!

with GID 7.2 and some other files which are written in C language, it is possible to write the result file in binary format in order to compress the size of result file. I got some gidpost files which are written in C language from GID website. from readme.txt, i was informed that i can get a library file by compiling those resource files and with the library file, i can write the *.flavia.msh and *.flavia.res in binary format. but i cann't compile those resouce file successfully. i don't know if somebody try it or not.

i think it is very meaning to write the two result file in binary format because with ascii format the two files are always very big sometimes, especially you have a lot of results in your result files.

thanks a lot	






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                              [GiDlist] how to get the library

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 11:25:02 CEST 2003



What's your compilation problem?
You compile on Linux/Unix, Windows using MS Visual C++, ...?

You can compile gidpost.lib ?(read gidpost.html to compile)
Yon can compile the sample use testpost.c using this library, to create
testpost.exe?

This library is tested under Linux and Windows.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zhiwei Niu" <nzwyc at sina.com>
To: "gid" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 3:29 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] how to get the library


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                              [GiDlist] how to get the library

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Mon Apr 28 11:38:01 CEST 2003



Hi, have you compile gidpost? if you have not, wich are the problem you
have in the compilation?

Regarding your other comment, mesh (.msh) file should be written in
ascii format if you want to write it separately from the result file
(.res). You can include the mesh into the result file and take
adavantage of the binary format.



Zhiwei Niu wrote:

>everybody,hi!
>
>with GID 7.2 and some other files which are written in C language, it is possible to write the result file in binary format in order to compress the size of result file. I got some gidpost files which are written in C language from GID website. from readme.txt, i was informed that i can get a library file by compiling those resource files and with the library file, i can write the *.flavia.msh and *.flavia.res in binary format. but i cann't compile those resouce file successfully. i don't know if somebody try it or not.
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                              [GiDlist] how to get the library

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon Apr 28 11:38:29 CEST 2003



Which platform are you using?
Linux? windows?
Which are the errors that appears when you try
to compile the files?

miguel

Zhiwei Niu wrote:
> 
> everybody£¬hi£¡
> 
> with GID 7.2 and some other files which are written in C language, it is possible to write the result file in binary format in order to compress the size of result file. I got some gidpost files which are written in C language from GID website. from readme.txt, i was informed that i can get a library file by compiling those resource files and with the library file, i can write the *.flavia.msh and *.flavia.res in binary format. but i cann't compile those resouce file successfully. i don't know if somebody try it or not.
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                              [GiDlist] Memory Limits of GiD 7.2

Send by: Winfried Schepers
On: Sun Apr 27 19:30:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD users,

are there any memory limits in GiD?

I have a mesh of 4599 nodes, 24 beams, and 3576 hexahedras. For
postprocessing I have a post.res file with 2048 time steps of
displacements and stresses.

First of all, I had to change the stack size of GiD.exe using EDITBIN,
otherwise it wasn't possible to open a file that large. However, there
seems to be a limit in GiD, since GiD crashes at some point before all
the time steps are read from the file. From the debugger I get the error
message "unhandled exception in gid.exe: access violation", which
usually means some array boundary violations of the program. I could
figure out that it happens when GiD allocated approximately 425 MB of
memory, even if I reduce the number of time steps or the amount of
postprocessing data. 

What are these limits? 

There is another strange behaviour of GiD: I want to cut volume sets of
the mesh above. GiD asks for two points, and then which side I want.
After pointing on the side GiD _always_ crashes with the same error
message from the debugger as above. This happens even when I haven't
read any post data, but only the mesh.

Does anyone have any ideas? I could send my data if requested.

I'm using GiD 7.2. I got this error on a Intel P4 as well as on an
Athlon 1000+, both running W2K.

Best regards

Winfried SCHEPERS

Technical University of Berlin
Soil Mechanics and Geotechnical Engineering Division


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                                          [GiDlist] Memory Limits of GiD 7.2

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon Apr 28 11:24:01 CEST 2003



Have you tried the latest beta:

ftp://gid.cimne.upc.es/pub/gid_adds/Windows/GiD7.3b-win.exe ?

There were some problems with the stack limitation imposed by 
Microsoft Visual C++. Which is overcome in this version.

the bug of cutting hexahedras was also solved.

miguel

Winfried Schepers wrote:
> 
> Dear GiD users,
> 
> are there any memory limits in GiD?
> 
> I have a mesh of 4599 nodes, 24 beams, and 3576 hexahedras. For
> postprocessing I have a post.res file with 2048 time steps of
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                                          [GiDlist] Memory Limits of GiD 7.2

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 11:54:25 CEST 2003



GiD , in general, not have static memory limits.
It seems a physical memory limitation: what amount of RAM exists in your
machine?
Mour mesh is small, but exists too many time steps.
If your write only displacements (3 components) and stresses (6 components)
then GiD also store the vector modulus (1 component), and the eigenvalues (3
components) and eigenvectors (9 components) of your stress tensor.

For 4599 nodes, 2048 time steps, and stored as single precision (real*4
bytes), this is:
  4599*2048*(3+6+1+3+9)*4=828850176 bytes (800 MB)

If your system not have 1GB or more of RAM, this overflow your physical
memory.

It is really needed to write too many time steps?

Enrique Escolano

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                                                      [GiDlist] Memory Limits of GiD 7.2

Send by: Winfried Schepers
On: Mon Apr 28 18:21:02 CEST 2003



Dear Enrique, dear Miguel,

indeed, the 7.3beta solved all the problems. Thanks for your help.

Winfried SCHEPERS

Technical University of Berlin
Soil Mechanics and Geotechnical Engineering Division


Enrique Escolano wrote:
> 
> GiD , in general, not have static memory limits.
> It seems a physical memory limitation: what amount of RAM exists in your
> machine?
> Mour mesh is small, but exists too many time steps.
> If your write only displacements (3 components) and stresses (6 components)
> then GiD also store the vector modulus (1 component), and the eigenvalues (3
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                  [GiDlist] Fw: how to get the library

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Apr 28 20:53:02 CEST 2003



You have reason, if you try to compile testpostfor.f from Compaq Visual FORTRAN 
(or another compiler from MS Developer Studio), it exists a bug in the sample:

Instead:
CALL GID_BEGINSCALARRESULT('Result','Analy.',1.0,0,0,NULL,NULL)
must use:
CALL GID_BEGINSCALARRESULT('Result','Analy.',1.0,0,NULL,NULL,NULL)

Another small change:
Instead
CALL GID_WRITECOORDINATES(idx, rx, ry, 0.0)
use
REAL*8 rz
...
rz = 0.0
CALL GID_WRITECOORDINATES(idx, rx, ry, rz)

I attach testpostfor.f with this changes, and avoiding the use of RANDOM for this sample, because is not FORTRAN standard, and
the syntax can change between compilers.

Regards
Enrique Escolano

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                              [GiDlist] postprocessing with changing mesh

Send by: Malte Neumann
On: Wed Apr 30 12:19:01 CEST 2003



Hi everbody,

I would like to postprocess results on a changing mesh, i.e. the number of 
nodes and elements might change (increase and decrease) during the simulation.
Is there a way to postprocess such results other than writing a new .msh 
and .res for each new mesh and not being able to create animations?

Thanks for any help.

Malte


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                                          [GiDlist] postprocessing with changing mesh

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 30 20:08:01 CEST 2003



Currently is not supported a "time-step" variable mesh in GiD postprocess.
It is necessary to open each .msh and .res

It is possible to create a tcl procedure (and a window) to automatize, for a
colection of results, this process:
- open an animation file (avi, mpeg...),
  - read a mesh and results file
  - read a view previously saved in another file.
  - save a image to this animation file
-close this animation file

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] Saving informations about the project

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Wed Apr 30 14:13:01 CEST 2003



Hello Gid Team,

I'm would like to be able to save some informations about the projecct
and to restore them when i open the project. 
Exactly, I want to keep the information about two selected surfaces,
without assigning conditions or materials to those surfaces. 
The goal is to create an contact zone which i need to mesh in a specific
way. For this I need to surfaces: a master surface and a slave surface.
I created a new list in which i keep the name of the contact zone, the
numbers of each surface (master and slave) and some options. I would
like to keep track of this list over sessions. 
Is this possible? 

Thank you,
--------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Tel: 05.49.25.40.63
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                              [GiDlist] Saving informations about the project

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed Apr 30 16:17:02 CEST 2003



  Hello,

  Conditions are specifically for THIS, to save contact information
between entities (among other things). So, my advice is to use a
condition
with numeric or named fields to identify the master and the slave pairs.

  In any case, you can save things from TCL inside the project, by
using:

SaveGIDProject
LoadGIDProject

  Check the Help for details.

  Regards,

--
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http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com
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                                          [GiDlist] Saving informations about the project

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Apr 30 17:23:01 CEST 2003



This is the help information about the tcl procedures related by Ramon to save 
and reload specific problemtype data. (see help on Tcl/Tk extension)

proc LoadGIDProject { filespd } {
...body(5)...
}

LoadGIDProject: will be called when a GiD project is loaded. It receives the filespd argument, which is the path of the file which is being opened, but with a .spd extension (specific problemtype data). This path can be useful if you want to write specific information of the problem type in a new file.

proc SaveGIDProject { filespd } {
...body(6)...
}

SaveGIDProject: will be called when the current opened file is saved to disk. It receives the filespd argument, which is the path of the file which is being saved, but with a .spd extension (specific problemtype data). This path can be useful if you want to write specific information of the problem type in a new file.

Enrique Escolano

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                                                      [GiDlist] Problem of the Local Axes on the post.

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Thu May 1 12:28:01 CEST 2003



Hi Enrique
   Many thanks for your prompt advise   
   It seems to me that there are a problem in GiD
about drawing the Local axes on the Post. I attached
the simple Post of the local axes. I played around
with the rotating the local axes from X,Y,and Z as
shown in the file. In my case the local Axis rotate
around the Y-axis base on the surface of the element.
 
The problem is:
1. Rotate about x axis......this's OK.
2. Rotate about y axis......this's not OK.
3. Rotate about z axis......this's OK.

The Zoom command "screen axis" in the post also didn't
work properly. Is it a GiD problem or my problem???

Best Regars.



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The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
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                  [GiDlist] Templates for Abaqus

Send by: N
On: Thu May 1 20:18:02 CEST 2003



Has anyone created templates for ABAQUS input files from QiD 7.2?

Has anyone successfully imported ABAQUS output files into QiD 7.2?

Any help will be appreciated...

Thanks
N
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                  [GiDlist] glibc version?

Send by: Johnny Geling
On: Wed May 7 11:18:02 CEST 2003



Hello,

I installed GID on a Linux box (Debian, woody with sarge and unstable parts)

What Glibc version needs GID? And what other versions of libraries are 
required?

The problems I have:
- instal verion not working: segmentation fault
- I cannot do any calculation: cannot find <problemtype>.dat file and when 
it can find it it cannot open or run. Because I'm not at that computer I 
cannot phrase the exact error.
- retrieve problem type list causes a segmentation fault. 

Any help is appriciated. 

Johnny





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                              [GiDlist] glibc version?

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon May 12 08:57:02 CEST 2003



Hi,

it uses glibc 2.2.
GiD is compiled statically, and the installator too, so
no external libraries are needed. 
There is a dynamic version:
ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid_adds/Linux/gid7.3b-dyn.tar.gz
to take advantage of the graphics acceleraiton provided by
the X server.

Which version of Debian are you using?
To do any calculation you have to install a simulation code,
for instance Rambshell, Tdyn, caltep, emant, or any other.
take a look at http://www.gidhome.com/gidplus/
or into the option menu 'Data->Problem type->Internet retrieve'.

miguel

Johnny Geling wrote:
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                              [GiDlist] memory consuming animation of results

Send by: Stefan Bergmann
On: Fri May 9 09:00:02 CEST 2003



Hello GiD Team,

when running an animation with GiD 7.3b I realised a steady increase of 
memory usage by GiD. Usually this wouldn't cause any harm, but when 
running an animation overnight GiD will produce a memory overflow and 
may cause to crash the computer.
Good luck in finding the probably missing dealloc command in your sources,
Regards

Stefan Bergmann

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Fachgebiet Grundbau und Bodenmechanik
Sekr. TIB1-B7
Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25
D-13355 Berlin, Germany

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                  [GiDlist] Saving informations about the project

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Mon May 12 10:33:01 CEST 2003



Hello and thank you for your advise. 

I think that is the only way to achive my goals. Initialy I thought that
the only information i needed was the surface Id. But I found no way to
extract the elements (3D elements) that have one face belonging to a
given surface.  (maybe there is one i didn't find).

So the second way would be to use conditions. But I'm sure how can I
make a dialog window where i can assign two conditions, one for the
master surface and the second for the slave surface. Can you give me
some indications in this way?

Thank you,
--------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Tel: 05.49.25.40.63
Email: ...

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                              [GiDlist] Saving informations about the project

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 12 12:27:01 CEST 2003



1) You can store the surface element's source, inside autocalculated field of a condition.

QUESTION: Surface_number#FUNC#(NumEntity)
VALUE: 0
STATE: hiddden

2) To learn to make a dialog window, read the chapter 3 of this advanced course documentation:
http://www.gidhome.com/2002/material_courses.subst

To select GiD entities from Tcl/Tk, can use this user procedure (defined inside /scripts/dev_kit.tcl)

proc GidUtils::PickEntities { type selectmode }
# It returns the enties identifier numbers (for example 1 3 5:8 represents 1 3 5 6 7 8)
# type can be "Points" "Lines" "Surfaces" "Volumes" "Nodes" or "Elements"
# selectmode can be "single" or "multiple"

For example:
set surf [::GidUtils::PickEntities Surfaces single]

The file dev_kit.tcl contain some GiD-Tcl developer utilities (to be documented)

Enrique Escolano

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                  Re: [GiDlist] glibc version?

Send by: Johnny Geling
On: Mon May 12 14:16:01 CEST 2003



Thanks for the reply,

I use a mix from woody, sarge and a little bit of unstable. I'm planning an 
update to sarge. 

Unless the statically compiled installer it gives me a segmentation fault. 
The internet retrieve also has the segmentation fault. This evening I can 
investigate futher. 

Should I compile the problem types for Linux? I tried it with the cmas2d, 
without succes. 

Johnny


On Mon, 12 May 2003 08:55:34 +0200, you wrote: 
>Hi,
>
>it uses glibc 2.2.
>GiD is compiled statically, and the installator too, so
>no external libraries are needed. 
>There is a dynamic version:
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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 12 14:57:01 CEST 2003



The "internet retrieve" problemtypes, at this moment, only includes the
Win32 compiled executable.
Are not compiled for Linux. To obtain a Linux/Unix version of Ramseries of
Tdyn contact Compass
web page: http://www.compassis.com

What's the problem with cmas2d? It exists some problem to compile cmas2d.c
to cmas2d?
Must also change cmas2d.unix.bat to start this executable: $3/cmas2d $2/$1
(and set the permission execution flag of cmas2d with chmod +x)

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] meshing

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Mon May 12 14:40:02 CEST 2003



I have an electrostatics application where I have a surface & discrete point
charges not on the surface.
I have found that the only way to write out both the surface mesh and the
points to a mesh file is to join the points to a dummy point with lines to
make them linear elements.
Is there a more elegant method to enable both surface elements & points to
be written to a mesh file?
Thanks in advance 
Mark

GiD6.3.0b & win98

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                              [GiDlist] meshing

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 12 15:42:02 CEST 2003



By default, isolated points are not meshed as nodes, but you can change this
setting with:

Utilities->Preferences: Meshing , and select "Mesh Always by default" for
Points

Note: The nodes are hidden by default, but  can show their labels.
(or show written "escape escape View Entities Nodes"  in the command line or
with  the right buttons)

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] Saving informations about the project

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Mon May 12 14:46:02 CEST 2003



I attached the code i already develloped.  Inside the main window you
have to select  two surfaces: master and slave. The surfaces Ids and the
Contact zone name are stored in a list. The names are displayed in a
listbox. The script is not finished, yet. 
 
My problem is that i don't know how to use the surfaces Ids to find the
elements that belongs (or have one face) on that surfaces. Can i create
a dialog box where i have two assign (condition) buttons? Or once I
select the surfaces how can i store that information as a condition?
 
Thank you,
--------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Tel: 05.49.25.40.63
Email: mihai.teodorescu at prevost-industries.com...

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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 12 16:42:02 CEST 2003



You must define a contition with a #FUNC#(NumEntity) field

file: ZoneContact.cnd
NUMBER: 1 CONDITION: SURF_ID
CONDTYPE: over surfaces
CONDMESHTYPE: over face elems
QUESTION: ID#FUNC#(NumEntity)
VALUE: 0
STATE:HIDDEN
END CONDITION

Then assign this condition to the desired surfaces, before generate the mesh. When meshing, are created automatically 
this conditions for the elements, storing the number of source surface in the ID field.

You can assign the condition to some surface from tcl with:
.central.s process escape escape escape escape data cond assign SURF_ID "list of entities to assign"

You can get information of the elements with this condition from the template bas file, or from tcl with

set ElemsAndValues[.central.s info conditions SURF_ID mesh]

Note: Your script use some advanced (tkwidget), undocumented features.
Instead to use proc  ZoneContact::ComunicateWithGiD (copied from another problemtype)
It is recommended to use 'problemtype'.tcl with InitGIDProject called by GiD when your problemtype is readed.
for example:

proc InitGIDProject { dir } {
  set w .gid.zc
  toplevel $w
  ::ZoneContact::initwindow $w
}

Read  GiD help about TCL_TK extension.

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] NURBS surface division

Send by: My VDI Freemail
On: Mon May 12 16:45:02 CEST 2003



I quite often encounter problems when I want to divide a NURBS surface by >Edit>Divide>Surfaces>Split.
Actually GiD rejects this function by giving the message: <check point xx>. But the line I want to use for the surface division was generated by using points on the boundary and on the surface directly. What is the reason?

Additionally I want to know, what is the best method to join lines, which as individual segments through geometry interfaces. Is there an opportunity to join these segments to get one line only?

Thanks for your support.

Ruediger



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                              [GiDlist] NURBS surface division

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 12 19:27:02 CEST 2003



1) To split the surface, the line points must divide the surface boundary
(it is not sufficient to be over the boundary, must be shared by the
boundary and the split lines)

2) If the lines are "approximately tangents", then you can use a
"Utilities->collapse->Lines" to join it.
It exists another command to force lines tangency  (with a user-defined
angle tolerance to select the lines to be tangents).
This command is only available from the right buttons command: Geometry Edit
TangentNurbsL
(the lines must be of type NurbLine, but any line can be converted with the
menu  Geometry->Edit->Convert to NURBS->Line)

Convert the lines to NurbLine (in are of another type), force tangency, for
example until 35 degrees, and collapse the lines.

Enrique Escolano

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                                          [GiDlist] NURBS surface division

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Mon May 12 19:32:01 CEST 2003



    Hello,

    The simplest command to use in order to split one line
at the endpoint of another line is:

    Geometry->Create intersection->line-line

   by careful: the order of selection of the two lines change
the result.

   Regards,

--
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http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com
c/ Manuel Girona, 61 bajos   tel. +34 93 204 10 82
08034 Barcelona, Spain       fax. +34 93 204 19 09  

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                  [GiDlist] meshing

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Mon May 12 18:22:01 CEST 2003



Enrique
Thanks for the tip but I still have a problem
I have the following as a .bas file which works OK when I have a line
between the points but when I delete the line it reports that
CondNumEntities(int) is zero ?

.bas file:
Number of Point charges
*Set Cond Point-charge *nodes
*set var numchg(int)=CondNumEntities(int)
*numchg
*#----------------------------------------
node    value(Coulombs)
*Set Cond Point-charge *nodes
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
*NodesNum     *cond(1)          
*end

Any thoughts?

Is there a way of setting the Utilities->Preferences: Meshing , and select
"Mesh Always by default" for
Points to be always on when the specific problem type is selected?

Thanks in advance
Mark

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                              [GiDlist] meshing

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 12 19:12:01 CEST 2003



Your problem type can change automatically this GiD variable from tcl with
.central.s process escape escape escape utilities variables ForceMeshEntities 1

It is recommended to restore the old value when the problemtype is unloaded. To ask GiD for the current value, use:
set oldvalue [.central.s info variables ForceMeshEntities]

But inother hand, you have reason. If only are generated the nodes, without elements, the conditions are not transferred automatically to the mesh. This bug is not corrected until a next beta version.

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                  [GiDlist] Templates for Abaqus

Send by: N
On: Tue May 13 01:43:01 CEST 2003



Has anyone created templates for ABAQUS input files from QiD 7.2?

Has anyone successfully imported ABAQUS output files into QiD 7.2?

Any help will be appreciated...

Thanks
N

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                              [GiDlist] Templates for Abaqus

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Thu May 15 17:28:02 CEST 2003



 
    We have developed a minimal interface with Abacus. It only exports
the mesh and node sets (NSET) and
elmset (ELSET). 
 
   Find it attached and tell us if it is useful. To make it work, unpack
the zip file in:

<GiD installation directory>problemtypes

Inside GiD, choose:

Data->Problemtypes->Abacus

Help->Abacus help

    Regards,

--
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http://www.compassis.com <http://www.compassis.com/>
ramsan at compassis.com
c/ Manuel Girona, 61 bajos   tel. +34 93 204 10 82
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                  [GiDlist] INTERESTING OBJECTS

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Tue May 13 10:33:01 CEST 2003



HI EVERYONE! WHEN I'VE DOWNLOAD GiD, THERE WAS VERY CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS TO
CREATE A MECHANICAL WHEEL. 
COULD YOU SEND ME CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS TO CREATE  VERY INTERESTING OBJECTS?
SO I WILL ABLE TO MESH THEM.
ABOUT INTERESTING OBJECTS I REALIZE: MILITARY AIRCRAFT (i.e. F-14, F-16,
F-17 STEALTH...), APACHE ELICOPTERT, MILITARY BOATS, OR RACE CAR (i.e. RALLY
CAR, FORMULA 1 CAR...), RACE BIKE (i.e. MOTO GP BIKE, SUPERBIKE...), OR
SATELLITES...
OTHERWISE SEND ME A PATH TO FIND THEM IN SOME LINKS.
BEST REGARDS,
GERO




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                              [GiDlist] INTERESTING OBJECTS

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue May 13 13:19:01 CEST 2003



You can import any model created by other CAD/CAE/CAM programs, some
of them are also available on internet, in GiD if they are written in one
of these formats:
http://www.gidhome.com/support/gid_6.subst#SEC30
IGES, DXF, Parasolid, ACIS, VDA, ...
Use the tutorials in http://www.gidhome.com/support/su05.subst,
about preprocessing and importing to handle and correct these geometries
to create a profitable mesh.

miguel

kalo81 at virgilio.it wrote:
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                  [GiDlist] surface mesh import

Send by: My VDI Freemail
On: Tue May 13 11:25:02 CEST 2003



Hello GiD,

I generated a simple quadrilateral mesh in GiD, which I saved as GiD mesh. 
Then I wanted to import this as surface mesh (according to the reference manual this should work with GiD mesh as well as STL file). But I got only the error message "VoidPlex::set_at. Invalid void index 0" and then GiD exited with a core dump.
What's the reason for it?
The simple GiD mesh looks like the following:
===========================================
MESH    dimension 3 ElemType Quadrilateral  Nnode 4
Coordinates
    1            100              0              0
    2            100            100              0
    3            100             50              0
    4             50              0              0
    5              0              0              0
    6             50            100              0
    7             50             50              0
    8              0             50              0
    9              0            100              0
end coordinates

Elements
    1          8       7       6       9
    2          5       4       7       8
    3          7       3       2       6
    4          4       1       3       7
end elements
==========================================

Thanks for your support.
Best regards,
Ruediger


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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed May 14 21:32:02 CEST 2003



This is a bug of GiD 7. It is corrected for the next beta version. Until
this correction, instead to create
a surfmesh from quadrilateral meshes, use only triangular GiD ascii or STL
meshes.

Thanks for your bug report.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "My VDI Freemail" <heim.ruediger at vdi.de>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] surface mesh import


> Hello GiD,
>
> I generated a simple quadrilateral mesh in GiD, which I saved as GiD mesh.
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                                          [GiDlist] surface mesh import

Send by: My VDI Freemail
On: Thu May 15 16:13:02 CEST 2003



Many thanks for your response Enrique,

Actually the import of triangular surface meshes works quite well. But unfortunately the surfaces created in GiD are not NURBS type. This means, that all subsequent actions (such as trimming etc.) are not valid, because of the type of the surface. Additionally the conversion to NURBS often does not work because the surfaces are not planar or coon surfaces.
How could I work with the surfaces generated?

Ruediger

-------------------
> This is a bug of GiD 7. It is corrected for the next beta version. Until
> this correction, instead to create
> a surfmesh from quadrilateral meshes, use only triangular GiD ascii or STL
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                  [GiDlist] CGNS for GiD

Send by: Bruno Contessi
On: Tue May 13 18:22:01 CEST 2003



Hi

I'd like to know if anyone has written or designed some code to translate GiD mesh (or projects) into CGNS - and from CGNS to GiD file type.

Also, to the GiD team, are you plaining on include such feature on GiD?

Thanks

Bruno Contessi
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                  [GiDlist] How to insert a PDF document in an HTML file?

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Wed May 14 16:42:01 CEST 2003



Hello:

I am trying to use a tag such as:

<A HREF="MyDocument.pdf" TARGET="_blank">click here</A>

in a html help file called by my tcl script as:

HelpWindow "TUTORIAL" $HelpFile


This does not seem to work.  What's the trick to launch a PDF document from 
a GiD HTML page?

Thanks.

Philippe


Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
www.magsoft-flux.com 





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                              [GiDlist] How to insert a PDF document in an HTML file?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu May 15 13:28:01 CEST 2003



It is not possible to show a pdf document inside the html GiD help viewer.
But it is possible for next GiD versions to start Acrobat Reader to open the
pdf link.

At this moment, it is also possible to add a new menu to GiD to start
Acrobat Reader
to show the desired file, instead to open it with the html GiD help viewer.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: "GiDList" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] How to insert a PDF document in an HTML file?


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                              [GiDlist] GID-problems with X-Server...

Send by: Holger Steeb
On: Thu May 15 10:16:02 CEST 2003



Hello,

after reinstalling our GID-PC (now Kernel 2.4.20, Suse 8.2)
additonally with Open-GL Hardware encouragement,
it is not possible to run GID "over" the network anymore,
it always crashes with an error ("Segmentation fault").

Is it a problem with the graphic-card (it was NO problem before
the update (Kernel 2.4.18, Suse 8.0), when i don't use any specific
Nvidia-graphic driver)?

Thanks for help and comments and perhaps solutions,

Holger


=====================================================================
Dr. Holger Steeb
Institute of Applied Mechanics, Building 22
Saarland University
D-66123 Saarbruecken, Germany

Phone:  ++49(0)681-302-2157
Fax:    ++49(0)681-302-3992
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                                          [GiDlist] GID-problems with X-Server...

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu May 15 15:28:01 CEST 2003



Hi,

Gid is statically compiled, with Mesa into it. That means
that is does software rendering, and do not use the
graphic acceleration.
At the beginning of May, together with the static version,
we released a dynamical linked version of GiD:

ftp://gid.cimne.upc.es/pub/gid_adds/Linux/gid_adds/Linux/gid7.3b-dyn.tar.gz

which, this one yes, uses the hardware acceleration of the graphical card.

By now, the Linux distributions comes with a 'sort' of accelerated driver for
the NVIDIA cards. This driver does not perform so well as de ones that NVIDIA
are distributing in their web page.

You are saying the that you are running GID "over" the network.
Where does GiD run?
are you running from a Silicon machine and displaying in your local Linux Box?
Then perhaps the problem lies in the 'GLX' capatibility of your machine.
On Silicon, GiD uses the SGI's OpenGL libraries.
It happens the same with any other OpenGL program from the Silicon box, that you
are displaying in your Linux box? Perhaps you should disable this 'GLX' capability
by commenting the ' Load "glx"' line in your module section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.

GiD is compiled on a Slackware 8.0 Linux Box with 2.2.19 kernel and gcc version 2.95.3.

miguel


Holger Steeb wrote:
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                              [GiDlist] ARCLINE properties

Send by: Malte Neumann
On: Thu May 15 13:18:01 CEST 2003



Hi everbody,

I have a couple of questions about Arcline properties, as they are shown in 
List Entities or printed in the output file:

1. In which direction and from what origin are the angles initang and 
endang defined?

2. What is the point 2D center? If this is the center of the circle/arc it 
is not correct!!

3. What does the transformation matrix transform?

I could not find the answers somewhere in the manuals or on the web page.
Maybe you could just tell me in which part of the manuals I can find the 
explanations.

Thanks for your help

Malte

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                               Malte Neumann
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Institut fuer Baustatik / Institute of Structural Mechanics
Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ekkehard Ramm
Universitaet Stuttgart / University of Stuttgart

Pfaffenwaldring 7, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany

mailto:...

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                                          [GiDlist] ARCLINE properties

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu May 15 14:43:02 CEST 2003



An arc is first defined in 2D normalized space, with a center 2D, radious,
and start and end angle in radians

Px(t)=Cx+r*cos(t)
Py(t)=Cy+r*sin(t)
with t from start angle to end angle (radians)

This generate a 2D arc, and this arc is mapped to the final 3D location with
a transform matrix:
This is a 4x4 matrix, to include a rotation, a translation and a a scalate.
The 3x3 submatrix coefs are for the rotation
The 4º row (only 3 col terms) are the translation,
The 4º column is set 0, and can be ignored.
M(4,4) is the scale factor. (useful 1.0)

Enrique Escolano

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                                                      [GiDlist] Surface (curve mesh)  flattening

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Fri May 16 04:19:01 CEST 2003



Hi GiD team and all
   
    Can we do a Surface mesh flattening in GiD? or any
further development? In case I have a mesh from the
shell surface and want to flatten it in some parts how
we do a mapping from 3D to 2D? any ideas? or
suggestion, or information  Please.

Regards.

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                  [GiDlist] a question about Mesh

Send by: edodo
On: Fri May 16 09:26:02 CEST 2003



Hi GiD team and all.
  I have a model,I can mesh it in Gid6.3 ,but there are some trouble  when i use Gid7.3 to mesh.
 Who can help me!Thanks.








egen software Co.,Ltd			 
http://www.fegensoft.com/english
086-10-82131600
086-10-82121900
ShaolinZhou
fea at eyou.com
2003-05-16






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                              [GiDlist] a question about Mesh

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri May 16 11:13:01 CEST 2003



If you try to mesh with transition size=0.7 instead 0.6
(and the default mesh size=0.32) then the mesh is generated.

The advancing front generation is a "pseudo-random" procedure, and
some small change can affect the generated mesh obtained.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "edodo" <fea at eyou.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 9:34 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] a question about Mesh


> Hi GiD team and all.
>   I have a model,I can mesh it in Gid6.3 ,but there are some trouble  when
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                  [GiDlist] a question about Mesh

Send by: edodo
On: Fri May 16 09:26:33 CEST 2003



Hi GiD team and all.
  I have a model,I can mesh it in Gid6.3 ,but there are some trouble  when i use Gid7.3 to mesh.
 Who can help me!Thanks.








egen software Co.,Ltd			 
http://www.fegensoft.com/english
086-10-82131600
086-10-82121900
ShaolinZhou
fea at eyou.com
2003-05-16
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                  [GiDlist] Entities Selection

Send by: Mihai TEODORESCU
On: Mon May 19 10:27:01 CEST 2003



Hello,

When I select some entities in GiD using the procedure:
Utilities::PickEntities the result may be in the form 1:4. 
Can you suggest me a way of transforming this interval in a list with
all the components {1 2 3 4}?

Thank you,
--------------------------------------------
Mihai TEODORESCU
Ingénieur Recherche et Développement 
Pièces et Accessoires Industriels
Tel:  (33)05.49.25.40.71
Email: mihai.teodorescu at prevost-industries.com
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                              [GiDlist] Entities Selection

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Mon May 19 11:58:02 CEST 2003



Hi, you can do the following

proc ExpandGIDSelection { sellist } {
    set result [list]
    foreach sel $sellist {
        if {[llength [set range [split $sel :]]]==1} {
            lappend result $range
        } else {
            foreach {from to} $range break
            while {$from<=$to} {
                lappend result  $from
                incr from
            }
        }
    }
   # you can also use: return $result
    set result
}

best regards,

Jorge Suit

Mihai TEODORESCU wrote:

>Hello,
>
>When I select some entities in GiD using the procedure:
>Utilities::PickEntities the result may be in the form 1:4. 
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                              [GiDlist] Entities Selection

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 19 12:28:02 CEST 2003



This is another sample procedure, inverse of you want: convert the selection list from "expanded style" to "compact style"

#sellist must be a list of positive integer numbers (e.g, a GiD entities selection)
proc CompactGIDSelection{ sellist } {    
    set ret ""
    set istart 0
    foreach i [lsort -integer $sellist] {  
 if { !$istart} {
     set istart $i
 } else {
     if {$i != [expr $iprev+1]} {
  if { $istart != $iprev } {
      if { [expr $istart +1] == $iprev } {
          append ret "$istart $iprev "
      } else { 
          append ret "$istart:$iprev "
      }
  } else {
      append ret "$istart "
  }            
  set istart $i
     }        
 }
 set iprev $i
    }
    if { $istart } {
 if { $istart != $iprev } {
     if { [expr $istart +1] == $iprev } {
  append ret "$istart $iprev"
     } else { 
  append ret "$istart:$iprev"
     }
 } else {
     append ret "$istart"
 }   
    }
    return $ret
}


Enrique Escolano

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                                          [GiDlist] Mark D. Moeckel/0Y/Caterpillar is out of the office.

Send by: Mark D. Moeckel
On: Mon May 19 11:09:02 CEST 2003



I will be out of the office starting 19May2003 and will not return until
29May2003.







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                  [GiDlist] GiD online reference manual

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Mon May 19 20:24:02 CEST 2003



Hello:

Just to point out a minor mistake in the on-line documentation:

http://gid.cimne.upc.es/support/gid_7.subst#SEC68

mentions "Entities" where it should read "Send To."
(I think this is a leftover from version 6).

Philippe


Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
Cell: 518-365-0421 (direct)
www.magsoft-flux.com 





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                              [GiDlist] GiD online reference manual

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon May 19 20:58:01 CEST 2003



Thanks, it is corrected now.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: "GiDList" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:18 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] GiD online reference manual


> Hello:
> 
> Just to point out a minor mistake in the on-line documentation:
> 
> http://gid.cimne.upc.es/support/gid_7.subst#SEC68...

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                  [GiDlist] View Toolbar

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Tue May 20 11:32:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
I’m trying to introduce a “View” toolbar in my problem type, to have a fast access to 
the principal views like XY plane, YZ plane 

Which is the command to use in the list
“set MyPreBitmapsCommands(0) [list ???]”
to use with the “AddNewToolbar” routine?
I tried with something like “rotate angle 270 90” but it didn’t work, could you please 
advise me about the item to use?

Thanks in advance


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com...

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                              [GiDlist] View Toolbar

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Tue May 20 13:33:01 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   Try something like:

    set 3dButtonNames(0,3) [list [_ "Trackball"] [_ "Screen axes"] [_
"Object axes"] 
	[_ "Center"] --- [_ "Plane XY (Original)"] [_ "Plane XZ"] [_
"Plane YZ"] [_ "Isometric"]]
    set 3dButtonCommands(0,3) { {-ne- rotate Trackball} {-ne- rotate
ScrAxes} 
	    {-ne- rotate ObjAxes}  {-ne- rotate Center FJoin} 
	    "" {-ne- rotate angle 270 90} {-ne- rotate angle 270 0} 
	    {-ne- rotate angle 0 0} {-ne- rotate angle 45 45} }

   Check file GrDataMenus.tcl for details.

   Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com...

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                  [GiDlist] Image editor

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Tue May 20 16:33:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
does anyone have an advice for a .gif icon editor suitable for GiD 
icons?
I would like to be able to generate .gif icons that don’t draw 
anything on the background around the coloured pixels.
Thanks


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com




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                              [GiDlist] Image editor

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed May 21 12:29:01 CEST 2003



   Hi,

   Try Gimp, a free image editor for both, Unix and Windows.
It is somewhat difficult to begin working with, but it is
very powerful after.
  
   Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com
c/ Manuel Girona, 61 bajos   tel. +34 93 204 10 82
08034 Barcelona, Spain       fax. +34 93 204 19 09  

-----Mensaje original-----
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                  [GiDlist] Printing

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Wed May 21 17:18:02 CEST 2003



Hello:

I have several questions regarding printing (to a printer) under windows.

1- The "Files | Print" and "Files | Page Setup" commands do not seem to be 
documented.  Is this correct?

2- My impression is that GiD sends a "general reset" command to the printer 
before printing.  As a result, the printer gets internally reset each time 
the "Files | Print" command is used.  This is causing problems on some 
printers that need to be manually set before printing (the manual setting 
must be done each time GiD prints).  Note that other Windows applications 
(such as Word) behave differently, so this issue appears to be specific to GiD.

3- The settings under "Files | Page Setup" seem to be lost each time this 
option is used (all the settings are reset to their default values).  This 
appears to be a small bug in the program.

Thanks.

Philippe


Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
Cell: 518-365-0421 (direct)
www.magsoft-flux.com 



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                              [GiDlist] Printing

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed May 21 19:43:01 CEST 2003



1- Yes, this command is now indocumented (until the next beta version).
2- It did not know this problem, we will try to detect and to correct it.
3- This settings are not saved to disk, only are maintaind for the current
session.
    (can be also enhanced for the next version)

Thanks
Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: "GiDList" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 5:12 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Printing


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                  [GiDlist] diferent icon in the postprocess

Send by: carlos lopez pavon
On: Thu May 22 11:37:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
Is there any way to have icons in the postprocessor diferent that the
one we have in the preprocessor.

I´m using MyPreBitmaps and MyPostBitmaps procs and if i use a gif image
in  MyPostBitmaps that i haven`t use in MyPreBitmaps i have no icons
displyed in the postprocessor. ¿? so i use to have some icons that dont
work in preprocessor only to be able to use that icons in the
postprocessor.

Thanks a lot.





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                              [GiDlist] diferent icon in the postprocess

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Jun 12 18:39:03 CEST 2003



Are you sure you are calling 
MyPreBitmaps and MyPostBitmaps from the InitGIDProject procedure?
the variables passed to the CreateOtherBitmaps are global? ?

attached to this mail you'll find the 'kratos0.1' problemtype
which creates a icon bar for the preprocess and another one for the
postproces.
you can also check it with the enclosed example.

miguel

carlos lopez pavon wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Is there any way to have icons in the postprocessor diferent that the
> one we have in the preprocessor.
> 
> I´m using MyPreBitmaps and MyPostBitmaps procs and if i use a gif image
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                  [GiDlist] Some issues with BOOKS in materials

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Thu May 22 15:57:02 CEST 2003



Hello:

I would like to report a series of issues that concern the use of BOOKS in 
the materials file (GiD 7.2).  I am using a materials file divided into 
several BOOKS, and there are no materials outside of the BOOKS, i.e.:

BOOK: book1
NUMBER: 1 MATERIAL: material1
...
END MATERIAL
    ...
NUMBER: N1 MATERIAL: materialn1
...
END MATERIAL
BOOK: book2
NUMBER: N1+1 MATERIAL: materialn1+1
...
END MATERIAL
    ...
NUMBER: N1+N2 MATERIAL: materialn1+n2
...
END MATERIAL
BOOK: bookm
NUMBER: N1+N2+...+1 MATERIAL: materialn1+n2+...+1
...
END MATERIAL
    ...
NUMBER: N1+N2+...+NM MATERIAL: materialn1+n2+...+nm
...
END MATERIAL


0- I believe this is a correct material file definition, but let me know if 
I messed up.


1- Using the "Import/Export" feature in the material window: the local 
material data (model data) listed is exclusively the materials in the 
current book.  This is what we want.  However, the global material list 
(file data) is not properly sorted.  Actually, no materials are shown in 
the right hand side of the window.  I believe the reason is the following:

In dataw.tcl, the initialization of the DataMaterials (the materials from 
the file) is done via the DWReadMatfile procedure.  This procedure does not 
seem to be looking for BOOK information.  Therefore, when the 
UpdateMaterialsPrim procedure is called to sort and display the list of 
materials that belong to $Book, the result comes empty.

At that point, it is clear that there is no possibility to import/export 
material.  If I try to export anyway, then the external material file is 
replaced with the list of materials I have exported (all other materials 
are lost, and of course, there is no BOOK information anymore).


2- Using the "delete material" command available in the material window 
until all the materials of a BOOK have been deleted causes an error in GiD 
(empty list).  Although the BOOK entry remains in file.mat, it is not 
possible to recover from this error unless the file.mat is manually edited 
and a material is created for that book.

Note that if all the materials from all the books are deleted, then 
file.mat is also deleted.

Maybe it would be useful to have a dummy material in each book.  This dummy 
material could serve as a template to create new materials and it would 
prevent the book from being totally empty.


3- Additionally, would it be possible to consider implementing a "rename 
material" feature?


Thanks a lot!

Philippe



Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
Cell: 518-365-0421 (direct)
www.magsoft-flux.com 



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                              [GiDlist] Some issues with BOOKS in materials

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri May 23 13:13:02 CEST 2003



The concept of BOOKS is added to GiD after create this Import/Export
materials window, and it is not been updated.

In some days this window will be updated, adding some tree structure to
support books.
We study also the suggested option to rename materials.

Thanks
Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: "GiDList" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 3:55 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Some issues with BOOKS in materials


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                  [GiDlist] 7.3b and visualizing of boundary condition

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Tue May 27 15:32:02 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
I'm using the GiD 7.3b version and I found some problems in 
visualizing the boundary conditions on surfaces with colours.
Sometimes, if the surfaces with a certain b.c. overlap, in the 
visualization, the colours are displayed wrongly. I had this problem 
with quadrilateral elements.

Another question:
Is it for debugging reasons that at the end of the meshing process 
(and in few other cases) GiD 7.3b waits some seconds before 
showing the mesh?

Regards


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com...

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                              [GiDlist] 7.3b and visualizing of boundary condition

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue May 27 18:58:01 CEST 2003



please, send us a small sample with this visualization problem
(send directly to escolano at cimne.upc.es)

This delay after meshing it can be because there are transferring the
conditions from the geometry, renumbering nodes and calculating the mesh
boundary, etc.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrea Calaon" <andrea at beasy.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] 7.3b and visualizing of boundary condition


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                  [GiDlist] Mouse wheel zoom pan

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Tue May 27 17:02:02 CEST 2003



Hi GiD developers,
I use GiD as geometry modeller as well, and I think some change 
in the mouse wheel events use could improve a lot the usability, 
speed and reliability of GiD modelling.
Autocad allows a configuration that makes “screen drawing” very 
similar to paper drawing even without huge screens.
It is the possibility to use 
*   the mouse wheel rotation as a “zoom” centred on the 
    cursor (with a settable ZOOMFACTOR) and
*   the mouse wheel buttondown and buttonup events as 
    activation and deactivation of “pan”.
In this way practically no use of zooming windows is needed 
(time efficiency) and the picking of points, lines 
 is more 
reliable since the user never lose sight of the entities. The whole 
becomes similar to the continuous going near the paper with your 
head for picking points and getting away from the surface when 
drawing the lines in “real” paper drawing.
I hope this suggestion will help you in the improvement of you 
already powerful program.
Regards


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: ...

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                  [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Jesús Mª García
On: Wed May 28 18:02:02 CEST 2003



Hi everybody, I have got a question about loads:
when I apply a load over a point, this load is constant in this point and then it will be transferred over a node, that´s right.
But if I want to aply a load non constant over a line or over a surface, for example a load which it depends on the x-variable along of the entity, this means the x-coordinate will be the x-coordinate of the node or the x-coordinate of the center of the element but not the x-coordinate along the line or surface. This is different to my idea because at the end the load is constant in that point and I don´t want that.
The problem is that I´m doing a problem type for Cosmos in 3D with solid elements and Cosmos don´t admit loads non constants, so I have to give them from GiD.
Could you tell me how I can create this condition?

Thank you, very much.

I wait your answers.

Jesús Mª García Prieto
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                              [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu May 29 10:28:02 CEST 2003



I don't understand well your question.

If you use a condition with a autocalculated #FUNC# field, you can use for this field a equation using the variables x,y,z and other field values.
This x,y,z are the global coordinates of each node or element center generated from the geometric entity (not the line or surface local parameter coordinates).

What you want exactly to write as input for COSMOS? 

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jesús Mª García 
  To: GID list ; gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:51 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Question about loads


  Hi everybody, I have got a question about loads:
  when I apply a load over a point, this load is constant in this point and then it will be transferred over a node, that´s right.
  But if I want to aply a load non constant over a line or over a surface, for example a load which it depends on the x-variable along of the entity, this means the x-coordinate will be the x-coordinate of the node or the x-coordinate of the center of the element but not the x-coordinate along the line or surface. This is different to my idea because at the end the load is constant in that point and I don´t want that.
  The problem is that I´m doing a problem type for Cosmos in 3D with solid elements and Cosmos don´t admit loads non constants, so I have to give them from GiD.
  Could you tell me how I can create this condition?

  Thank you, very much.

  I wait your answers.

  Jesús Mª García Prieto
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                                          [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Jesús Mª García
On: Sun Jun 1 16:36:01 CEST 2003



Hi, other time.
Perhaps I didn´t explain very well my question.
The problem is that x,y,z are the global coordinates of each node or element center generated.
My question was for example, if  I apply a load over a surface I have two possibilities:
    1.- When I do my conditions archive the load is transfered over his nodes
    2.- The load is transfered over his elemens
In both cases, the final load is constant in the nodes or in the centre of the element.
But if the load wasn´t constant because it depended on the one variable.What can I do if I want that the final load depends 
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                  [GiDlist] Unstructured Meshing - Cordal Error

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Thu May 29 06:02:01 CEST 2003



Hello:

I have been experimenting a little with the "Assign unstruct. meshing | By 
cordal error" command and I do not quite understand its behavior.

To simplify matters, I am using a simple 2D disk for the geometry.  I start 
with a cordal error value C and I obtain an unstructured mesh.  Then, I 
assign a value c < C for the cordal error.  I remesh, and the mesh becomes 
denser, as expected.

Now, if I assign the cordal error back to C, and if I re-mesh, then the 
mesh remains the same instead of becoming coarse again, as I was expecting.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

Philippe


Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
Cell: 518-365-0421 (direct)
www.magsoft-flux.com 



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                              [GiDlist] Unstructured Meshing - Cordal Error

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu May 29 09:58:02 CEST 2003



The utilities to assign automatic sizes (by cordal error, by geom) or to
automatic correct sizes,
not change an entity size if this entity has a previous assigned size more
small. (not increase previous assigned sizes).

To set a greater cordal error, it is needed to use "Reset mesh data" to
clear previous assigned sizes, and use then "By cordal error"

This form to act is not a bug, but it can seem not intuitive.

Enrique Escolano

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From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: "GiDList" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                                          [GiDlist] Unstructured Meshing - Cordal Error

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Thu May 29 16:17:02 CEST 2003



Hello Enrique:

Thanks for your rapid reply, as usual.

Maybe I am not using the meshing feature in the best way, but it seems to 
me that using the "Reset Mesh Data" command is too radical when we are 
trying to fine-tune a mesh, because suddenly, we lose all the mesh 
information.  Maybe it is possible to reset to mesh information for one 
specific geometrical entity only, instead than for the complete model at 
the same time?  But I have not found how.

Your advice is very appreciated.  Thanks!

Philippe

Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
Cell: 518-365-0421 (direct)
www.magsoft-flux.com 





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                                                      [GiDlist] Unstructured Meshing - Cordal Error

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu May 29 17:44:02 CEST 2003



To unassign only some mesh entity size, assign manually a new unstructured
size = 0 to this entity.

Enrique

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Unstructured Meshing - Cordal Error


> Hello Enrique:
>
> Thanks for your rapid reply, as usual.
>
> Maybe I am not using the meshing feature in the best way, but it seems to
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                                                      [GiDlist] Unstructured Meshing - Cordal Error

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Thu May 29 18:17:02 CEST 2003



Thanks, Enrique and sorry for that silly question.  I know (for having read 
it long time ago) that the answer is in the manual.

Philippe

>To unassign only some mesh entity size, assign manually a new unstructured 
>size = 0 to this entity.

Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
Cell: 518-365-0421 (direct)
www.magsoft-flux.com 





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                  [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Jesús Mª García
On: Sun Jun 1 16:54:01 CEST 2003



Hi, other time.
Perhaps I didn´t explain very well my question.
The problem is that x,y,z are the global coordinates of each node or element center generated.
My question was for example, if  I apply a load over a surface I have two possibilities:
    1.- When I do my conditions archive the load is transfered over his nodes
    2.- The load is transfered over his elemens
In both cases, the final load is constant in the nodes or in the centre of the element.
An example can be a load with triangle form varing with y-varible and applied over a vertical face of a cube.
The mesh could be solid and have for example 5x5x5 elements solid.
How can I do my condition for the nodes collect the effect of the load?
I would like the new loads in the nodes would be equivalent to the original load.

Thank you, very much.
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                              [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Pablo Perez del Castillo
On: Mon Jun 2 10:38:01 CEST 2003



Hello;
You have examples in the GIDLIST over this question;

Try this:

File: *.cnd

NUMBER: 1 CONDITION: Hydrostatic_pressure
CONDTYPE: over surfaces
CONDMESHTYPE: over nodes
CANREPEAT: yes
QUESTION: Density:
VALUE: 0
QUESTION: Z_Water_Level:
VALUE: 0
QUESTION: AutoCalculatePressure#FUNC#(Cond(1,REAL)*(Cond(2,REAL)-z))
VALUE: AutoCalculate
END CONDITION

file:*.bas
*Set Cond Hydrostatic_pressure *nodes
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
 *nodesnum *Cond(AutoCalculatePressure)
*end nodes

Pablo






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                                          [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Jesús Mª García
On: Tue Jun 3 18:02:02 CEST 2003



Hello:
other problem on relation on the before problem, with this condition or with
other similar when you apply a load, the final load depends on the number of
the nodes.
For example, I have other time a cube.
If I apply a triangle load over a lateral surface like a hydrostatic load
and my cube is meshed with 2x2x2 elements, the nodes on top have the value
of the load, the nodes in the middle of the surface have half value of the
load and the nodes down haven´t load.
I can add the differents values: Total Load = 3 * F + 3 * 0.5 * F = 4.5 F
In other case if  my cube is meshed with 4x4x4 elements, the total load is:
Total Load = 5 * F + 5 * 0.75 * F + 5 * 0.5 * F + 5 * 0.25 * F = 12.5 F

So my question is, are there any way to do this? I would like that the total
load would be the same in both cases and it wouldn´t depend on the number of
nodes in the surface.
So the total load would be independent of the nodes´ number.

Thank you, I believe that isn´t easy to do that.

Jesús.




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                                                      [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jun 3 20:54:01 CEST 2003



In fact, is a bad design to define a concentrated force over lines, surfaces
or volumes to be transferred over nodes.

The correct design is to apply a pressure to be transfered over a element
face, then the total force not dependent of the mesh size.

But if your code cannot support pressures, and you must set the total force
to a user value=A, must calculate a new
weighted value for each node. For example compute the forces summatory
Sum(Fi), and write for each node i the value Fi/Sum(Fi)*A

Note: can make some small operation inside the bas file, using the
*operation command

Enrique Escolano

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                                                      [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Jesús Mª García
On: Thu Jun 5 23:09:02 CEST 2003



It´s a good idea but I see a problem:
if I do that the total force is the same in both cases but the resultant
moment is different.
That is my main problem because I don´t know to do a system of forces
equivalent to my original load.
While the force is equivalent the moment isn´t.
Cosmos support pressures but the pressures are constant in each element.
I have a  question, when I apply a load over a element face, if that load
isn´t constant, does Gid know to put in each node his exact force to do the
system equivalent?
I send you a draw to explain the situation.

Thank you other time.

Jesús García Prieto
Valladolid (Spain)




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                                                      [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jun 6 10:24:02 CEST 2003



GiD is a neutral program, and it unknow if your condition is a force, a pressure, a velocity, a label, etc.
It cannot translate automatically from geometry to nodes the "unknown field" with a "equivalent system" 
as desired in this particular case (from pressure to puntual loads). 

It is needed to write this specific translation inside the bas file, or with and auxiliar code that read the input
file, and rewrite it modified.

You can convert the continuous load over a element to some equivalent (F=Sum Fi, and M=Sum Mi ) forces over the nodes, for example:

You assign in GiD with a #FUNC# field condition the Pa,Pb values, and after process the calculation file (with a external code, or tcl if needed) 
to calculate the accumulated Fa,Fb

Enrique Escolano

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                              [GiDlist] Question about loads

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jun 2 13:24:01 CEST 2003



You can define for example, a pressure linear with the z coordinate: P(z)=Density*(Zref-z)

NUMBER: 1 CONDITION: Hydrostatic-Load
CONDTYPE: over surfaces
CONDMESHTYPE: over nodes
QUESTION: Z_Reference:
VALUE: 0
QUESTION: Density:
VALUE: 1.0
QUESTION: Pressure#FUNC#(Cond(2,REAL)*(Cond(1,REAL)-z)
VALUE: Autocalculated
STATE:hidden
END CONDITION

The Pressure field obtained foreach node is not constant, it's the result of evaluate the function (using for each node your z coordinate)

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jesús Mª García 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                  [GiDlist] Post Processing across shell thickness

Send by: Guy HUBERT
On: Mon Jun 2 12:42:02 CEST 2003



Is there any functions to see the stress on a particular layer (typically
medium, upper, lower).

How to define the stress components across the thickness in a result file
for Gid.

Thanks

________________________________________________________________
Guy HUBERT                             Mailto:hubert at deltacad.fr
Tel direct : +33 (0)3 44 23 52 99      mobile: 06 76 80 03 42

DeltaCAD
Centre de Transfert - 66 Avenue de Landshut
60200 COMPIEGNE (FRANCE)
Tel : +33 (0)3 44 23 46 54  -  Fax : +33 (0)3 44 23 46 31
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                              [GiDlist] Post Processing across shell thickness

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Jun 11 18:38:02 CEST 2003



what do you mean with ' see the stress on a particular layer (typically
> medium, upper, lower)' ?
i understand that you have several stresses for one node/element and
want to see one of them ( medium stress, upper stress, lower stress).
what you can do is enter these three stresses with their own names:
for instance :

Result "medium stress" "load case" 1.0 Matrix OnNodes
Values
...
End Values

Result "upper stress" "load case" 1.0 Matrix OnNodes
Values
...
End Values

Result "lower stress" "load case" 1.0 Matrix OnNodes
Values
...
End Values

and just select throught the menus/windows the one you want to see.


can you elaborate on this:
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                  [GiDlist] A question about a command

Send by: edodo
On: Fri Jun 6 09:56:02 CEST 2003



Dear,sir/madam,GID Developer Team

  I have a qustion about the command which is join in postprocess.
  I can find the help about that in online Manual.  
  
  Join: to join several sets into one. 

  But what is a set? How can i define a set?
 
 And the same quetion in PostProcess :Utilities>Collapse.

Can you tell me detail? How to use it? 

Thanks


ShaolinZhou
Fegensoft Co.,Ltd  
http://www.fegensoft.com/english/





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                              [GiDlist] A question about a command

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Jun 11 18:53:02 CEST 2003



What time ago we called Meshes/sets/cuts is now called VolumeMesh/SurfaceMesh/CutMesh.
a volume set is a set of points, tetrahedras or hexaedras.
a surface set is a set of triangles, cuadrilaterals or lines.

so, Join sets just merges the Shown surface sets into one.

the same for colapse: try to colapse repeated nodes of a surface set.
i the newer version appears already the actualized names (volume/surface,...).

miguel

edodo wrote:
> 
> Dear,sir/madam,GID Developer Team
> 
>   I have a qustion about the command which is join in postprocess.
>   I can find the help about that in online Manual.
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                  [GiDlist] Automatic condition not displayed

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Fri Jun 6 10:48:02 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
In my problem type I use a condition that I assign automatically 
before meshing and I would like not to show it in the “Condition” 
menu.
Is there any way to get rid of that submenu item, in the 
InitGiDProject Tcl routine?
Thanks in advance
Regards



Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225

WIT Press on the web - Now with eLIBRARY:  
http://www.witpress.com

E-mail: andrea at beasy.com
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                              [GiDlist] Automatic condition not displayed

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jun 23 16:38:01 CEST 2003



If your problemtype user not need to open the condition windows, can remove the Conditions menu using 
GidChangeDataLabel "Conditions" ""


proc InitGIDProject { dir } {
  GidChangeDataLabel "Conditions" ""
}

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andrea Calaon 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:49 AM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Automatic condition not displayed


  Hi everyone,

  In my problem type I use a condition that I assign automatically before meshing and I would like not to show it in the "Condition" menu.

  Is there any way to get rid of that submenu item, in the InitGiDProject Tcl routine?

  Thanks in advance

  Regards







  Andrea Calaon


  Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
  Southampton, Hampshire
  SO40 7AA, UK
  Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
  Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
  Mobile: +44 7766 488 225


  WIT Press on the web - Now with eLIBRARY:  
  ...

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                  [GiDlist] Question about NASA ALMOND

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Sat Jun 7 09:47:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone!
I would like to know a web site to import the NASA ALMOND;
And afterwards: meshing the window suggests me the size of the element,
what is the M.S.K.A. unit of it? 
Best regards,
Gero.




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                  [GiDlist] How to orient conditions in *.sim

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Tue Jun 10 16:26:02 CEST 2003



Hello:

This is what I am doing:
- the user defines a local coordinate system (local_axes)
- the user applies a boundary condition that depends on local_axes to a set 
of volumes present in the model.

The tricky part here is that the boundary condition is radial (for 
instance, radial with respect to an axis of local_axes).

To export the data to my solver, there's no problem because I can find the 
orientation of the local_axes in the *.bas file using 
LocalAxesDef(EulerAngles), for instance.

However, since local_axes is the same for all the volumes in the set, then 
the drawing of the condition is the same also.
In order to draw properly the condition in GiD, I would need to know the 
orientation of local_axes (or the orientation of the element) at the time 
of drawing so that I could apply a formula in the *.sim file that would 
properly orient the drawing for each element.  I have not found how to do that.

Is there a way to obtain the local_axes definition (or element orientation) 
for use in the *.sim file?

Thanks.

Philippe

PS: one possible way would seem to add hidden fields (euler angles, e.g.) 
to my condition and automatically compute the value of these fields based 
on the setting of local_axes (using the FUNC command, for instance); but I 
haven't found how to do that either.


Magsoft Corporation
Tel: 518-271-1352
Cell: 518-365-0421 (direct)
www.magsoft-flux.com 



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                              [GiDlist] How to orient conditions in *.sim

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jun 11 12:39:01 CEST 2003



Sorry, it is not possible now to orient a symbol with the local_axes field
information.

The format of the symbols file is old, and it can be updated and enhanced
with
this and another features for next GiD versions.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: "GiDList" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] How to orient conditions in *.sim


> Hello:
>
>...

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                              [GiDlist] How to orient conditions in *.sim

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed Jun 11 13:31:02 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   It is very difficult to give a general mechanism for orienting
properly and semi-automatically the symbols. For the new version,
we have decided to follow another scheme: to draw OpenGL from TCL.

  The main disadvantage is that OpenGL is quite difficult to learn
and understand. The main advantage is that it gives complete freedom
to the problemtype creator to draw whatever he/she wants. Another
advantage is that it is easy to copy from someone else the most
standard drawings.

  This new possibility should be usable in the last beta version.

  As a example, consider the following:

  in proc InitGIDProject:

       drawopengl registercond DrawSections::drawLoadCond
Global_Beam_Load 
	            Global_Projected_Beam_Load

  And below, you can find the drawing function.

  Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
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                                          [GiDlist] RamDebugger version 3.0

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed Jun 11 16:33:00 CEST 2003



    Hello,

    A new version of RamDebugger has been released.

    Changes From version 2.8 to version 3.0

   * Count lines of code of a project (LOC)
   * It is possible to create and use macros defined in TCL
   * Values in User defined var & Local vars display content in balloon
   * Autodisplay variables now displays also array variables
   * Better interactive indentation and colors
   * Menu close
   * Drawing dynamically closing braces when editing
   * better stack position
   * search & replace
   * comment lines are indented in normal column
   * Added reinstrument to menu Debug
   * If tkcon is open, output goes also to tkcon
   * New menu options in Tkcon to send commands to debugged program

web page
========

RamDebugger web page is at: ...

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                                                      [GiDlist] RamDebugger version 3.0. I this a bug?

Send by: Jesús Torrecilla
On: Thu Jun 12 10:18:02 CEST 2003



Hello,

just downloaded RamDebugger 3.0 into C:RamDebugger. When I try to run
RamDebugger.tcl, I obtain a message box with this content:

	"bitmap "C:RamDebuggeraddons
amdebugger.ico" not defined while executing
	"wm iconbitmap "w "MainDiraddons
amdebugger.ico"
	  (procedure "RamDebugger::InitGUI" line 530)
	   invoked from within
	"RamDebugger::InitGUI"
	 invoked from within
	"...............................

Some suggestion ?

Thanks in advance


Jesús Torrecilla




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                                                      [GiDlist] RamDebugger version 3.0. I this a bug?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jun 12 10:53:01 CEST 2003



See if exists the related file: C:RamDebuggeraddons
amdebugger.ico

I attach a copy of this file 'ramdebugger.ico', but it is included inside
Ramdebugger3.0.zip,
try to re-download it and unzip.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jesús Torrecilla" <jtorine at ciccp.es>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: [GiDlist] RamDebugger version 3.0. I this a bug?


> Hello,
>
> just downloaded RamDebugger 3.0 into C:RamDebugger. When I try to run
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                                                      [GiDlist] RamDebugger version 3.0. I this a bug?

Send by: Jesús Torrecilla
On: Thu Jun 12 12:18:02 CEST 2003



Yes, I did have the file. Anyway I got yours and put into /addons directory.
I
have the same problem as before. I have Tcl/Tk 8.4 version. Any idea?


Thanks in advance.

Jesús Torrecilla




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                  [GiDlist] Frozen Layers and lightnig

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Wed Jun 11 10:47:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
I would like to access the information about which layers are frozen 
in Tcl, is there an easy way?
In GiD 7.3 b I have a problem in postprocessig:
 when I use the commands “render FlatLightning” and “render 
Normal” the image disappears and there is no way to get it back but 
to exit post processing. Are the command suitable for post 
processing or shoud I use different ones?
Thanks in advance


Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com...

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                              [GiDlist] Frozen Layers and lightnig

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jun 11 12:24:01 CEST 2003



1) You can get GiD from Tcl about the list of layer names with [.central.s info layers]
and you can ask a layer, for example named 'L1' using [.central.s info layers L1]
The returned information is: { On  Frozen  R_color  G_color  B_color }
On and Frozen are logical values, and R,G,B are the color components (integer values from 0 to 255)
To get for example the frozen field use 
set FrozenL1 [lindex [lindex [.central.s info layers L1] 0] 1]

2) In postprocess, instead to use (as in preprocess):
View Render FlatLighting  
use:
Utilities Render FlatRender

Enrique Escolano

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From: "Andrea Calaon" <andrea at beasy.com...

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                              [GiDlist] Frozen Layers and lightnig

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Jun 11 12:38:01 CEST 2003



You should use the commands:

utilities render normal
utilities render falt
utilities render smooth

in postprocess.
for the next version the behaviour will be unified to the preprocess one.

miguel

Andrea Calaon wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I would like to access the information about which layers are frozen
> in Tcl, is there an easy way?
> In GiD 7.3 b I have a problem in postprocessig:
>  when I use the commands ?render FlatLightning? and ?render
> Normal? the image disappears and there is no way to get it back but
> to exit post processing. Are the command suitable for post
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                  [GiDlist] zoom in GID

Send by: Billy Fälth
On: Wed Jun 18 15:49:01 CEST 2003



Hello

Is there any possibility to make GID to keep the actual zoom of the model
when switching between graph view and model view? When I zoom in a certain
part of a model, draw a graph and then switch back again, the zooming has
switched back to “frame zoom” again.

 

Regards

 

BF

 

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                              [GiDlist] zoom in GID

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Wed Jun 18 16:23:02 CEST 2003



will be correcte for the next version.
what you can do is 'Zoom->previous zoom', but you'll get the forelast view of 
the model, and not the last.

Or you can use:
view->save view
and then
view->read view

miguel
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                              [GiDlist] zoom in GID

Send by: Javier Mora
On: Wed Jun 18 16:23:33 CEST 2003



Have you tried the "View - View - Save/Read" command?

  -----Mensaje original-----
  De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
[mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.es]En nombre de Billy Fälth
  Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2003 15:54
  Para: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
  Asunto: [GiDlist] zoom in GID


  Hello

  Is there any possibility to make GID to keep the actual zoom of the model
when switching between graph view and model view? When I zoom in a certain
part of a model, draw a graph and then switch back again, the zooming has
switched back to “frame zoom” again.



  Regards



  BF



  Billy Fälth

  Clay Technology AB

  Ideon Research Center

  S 223 70 Lund, SWEDEN

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                                          [GiDlist] Mark D. Moeckel/0Y/Caterpillar is out of the office.

Send by: Mark D. Moeckel
On: Wed Jun 18 16:19:01 CEST 2003



I will be out of the office starting 16Jun2003 and will not return until
23Jun2003.







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                  [GiDlist] Circles

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Thu Jun 19 21:52:02 CEST 2003



Hello:

When I use the Geometry | Create | Object | Circle function in GiD, I 
obtain an almost closed circle defined by a line and a single point.  A 
surface is also automatically generated.

I found out that if I remove the surface and split the line in slices (just 
like a pizza pie), then the radius of each slice changes.  The variations 
are actually sufficient to produce spurious results in my FE solvers.  So, 
obviously, that is a problem.

I found out that if I create my circle using 2 arcs (2 lines and 2 points), 
then I can slice these arcs and the numerical errors on the radius become 
very small.  The same thing for circles generated by rotation extrusion.

Also note that the disc used as the base of the Cylinder object is actually 
constituted of two arcs of circle, and does not present the strange 
behavior of the single-point-circle.

I want to ask the following:

- Do you agree with my remarks, i.e. the Circle object in GiD is defined in 
such a way that it is not a very good representation of a true circle?  So 
this object should be used carefully if numerical analysis is to be 
performed.  Maybe you can give me some recommendations about the usage of 
that circle?

- Would it be possible to have a new object, a "true circle" that would be 
defined with two arcs, just like the base of a cylinder object?

- I believe GiD uses single precision for the definition of objects.  Is 
this true?  Do you see that as a limitation?

Thanks.

Philippe 



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                              [GiDlist] Circles

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Mon Jun 23 12:21:02 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   When you create a circle with that function, GiD creates a rational
NURBS line. Its expression, for the unit circle is:

Control points:
1      0.000000,1.000000,0.000000 W=1.000000
2      -1.000000,1.000000,0.000000 W=0.707107
3      -1.000000,0.000000,0.000000 W=1.000000
4      -1.000000,-1.000000,0.000000 W=0.707107
5      0.000000,-1.000000,0.000000 W=1.000000
6      1.000000,-1.000000,0.000000 W=0.707107
7      1.000000,0.000000,0.000000 W=1.000000
8      1.000000,1.000000,0.000000 W=0.707107
9      0.000000,1.000000,0.000000 W=1.000000

Knots:
1    0.000000
2    0.000000
3    0.000000
4    0.250000
5    0.250000
6    0.500000
7    0.500000
8    0.750000
9    0.750000
10   1.000000
11   1.000000
12   1.000000

   Following the NURBS theory, this should represent an exact circle.
So,
the mathematical representation of this line should by exactly a circle.
If
you divide this circle into parts, every arc should be converted into
another
NURBS line that should represent exactly that arc. If you have found
that the
representation is not accurate, maybe you have discovered a bug in the
division
code. Please send us the exact example to make it easier to discover the
problem.

   GiD internal operations in the preprocessing part are made in double
precision. 

   About the mesh simmetry in a simmetric geometry, as unstructured mesh
is an
heuristic algorithm, you can never guarantee that you will obtain the
same mesh
although the geometry is simmetric. You cannot even guarantee that you
will obtain
the same mesh on two runs of the mesher in the same geometry. But good
analysis
codes do not depend on the mesh, do they?

   Regards,

--
Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
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                              [GiDlist] Circles

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jun 23 15:23:01 CEST 2003



Hello Philippe.

As explain Ramon, it exists in GiD two mathematical expresions for a circle:
The classical circle (with a center 2D, a radius and a transformation matrix
to locate in 3D position), and the NURBS expression.

The first expression set the radius explicit, and for the second expression
the radius is implicit, and can have a great numerical error.

The numerical error can increase if your model have a size too big, too
small, or is translated far of the origin.

Can you send us the sample (what is the location, radius, number of
divisions, etc)?

To increase the precision can try to scale and/or translate your entities.
You can also create an arc with the classical expression using
geometry->create->arc instead to create with the circle object or by
rotation.

In other hand, the cylinder uses also NURB expression. The precission
problem must also appear in this case!

Enrique

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                  [GiDlist] BLT trouble

Send by: Saunders, Kristopher
On: Fri Jun 20 16:33:02 CEST 2003



Hi everyone

Can anyone tell me what alterations I need to make to my tcl scripts so that
they will work with the tcl extension BLT? I have installed the BLT
executables within the same directory as the original tclsh84.exe
(problemtypes/tcl/bin), but for some reason I have a stand-alone tcl script
that will no longer execute when called.

The stand-alone script is executed from within another script, and has the
following three lines at the start of the file:

	#!/bin/sh
	# -*- mode: tcl -*- 
	exec tclsh "$0" ${1+"$@"}

And as far as I can work out the lines of tcl code that call the script are:


	Set prg "[list [file join $ControlBoxDir tcl bin tclsh84s.exe]]
[list [file join $ControlBoxDir $RunInfo(control,name)]] $_args"
	set result [catch {
	runExe run $prg -blocking false -callback
"::CFDControl::ControlBoxCb %m"
	} RunInfo(control,pid)]

Does anyone know where I am going wrong? I am still very much a beginner
with tcl and so I would be extremely greatful for any help, no matter how
basic it might seem!

Kindest regards,
Kris Saunders


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                              [GiDlist] BLT trouble

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Mon Jun 23 12:59:01 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   You are trying to open an additional process with TCL and BLT. This
is normally not the way to proceed. GiD has an internal TCL-TK
interpreter
that should deal with your TCL code. If you need BLT, you can deal with
it by using from GiD something like:
 
     - package require BLT    or
     - load BLTlib??.dll (in UNIX, something like: libBLT??.so)

   Note that the GiD TCL version and the BLT version should be
compatible.

   Check the package and load man pages and check the BLT help for more
details.

   Regards,

--
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                  [GiDlist] Re: GiDlist digest, Vol 1 #406 - 1 msg

Send by: Jeramy Ashlock
On: Fri Jun 20 18:38:02 CEST 2003



Hi Philippe, I have found the same problem with the circle command.  I
needed to create a cylinder as well, and the arc formed by
rotation-extrusion of the vertical sides was different from that obtained
by the circle command.  I have learned to use the exact same lines to
generate surfaces that need to be connected.

Furthermore, I have found that a perfectly symmetric geometry with
symmetric surface divisions will not result in a symmetric mesh.  I then
tried to create a single "slice" of the cylinder geometry, which I then
meshed and copied by rotation.  I have found that there is unacceptable
round off error in rotating the mesh like this, so I now create 1/4 of the
cylinder, mesh it, and copy it by mirroring twice so that the resulting
mesh is actually symmetric.  I have asked if there was an option to
increase the numerical precision of the rotation operation, but was told
that generating 1/4 of the mesh and copying by mirroring was the only way
to get a truly symmetric mesh.

I do see this and your problem as small limitations, although I can't
complain because I am using a great program for free.  Had I paid for the
license, then I would not be happy, but hopefully this will be addresed in
future versions.


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                  [GiDlist] GiD --> ucd format?

Send by: Roger Young
On: Mon Jun 23 12:00:03 CEST 2003



Hello GiD folk,

I am an applied mathematician working in crystal plasticity
and fatigue modelling. For my calculations I am using the
deal.II finite element library.

This library is poorly supplied with meshing tools, and for
complicated geometries it relies on importation of a mesh
in a particular format, for example "ucd" format.

It is best to explain this in terms of a very simple example:
Here (below) there is a single hex cell with 8 vertices (nodes).
After defining the vertices there are then 3 cell-type 
connectivity statements. The first just describes the connectivity 
of the hex element, but the 2 following lines each associate a tag 
with a particular (quad) _face_ of the element. The face is 
identified by its nodal connectivity. Thus we have tag 5 being 
associated with the quad face with node numbers (0 1 2 3). Later 
the tag will be associated with a boundary condition. 

8 3 0 0 0
0               0.0               0.0               0.0
1               1.0               0.0               0.0
2               1.0               0.0               1.0
3               0.0               0.0               1.0
4               0.0               1.0               0.0
5               1.0               1.0               0.0
6               1.0               1.0               1.0
7               0.0               1.0               1.0
0 0 hex 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 
1 5 quad 0 1 2 3
2 8 quad 0 1 5 4

The scheme is easily extended to a multi-element mesh: there is a 
list of hex declarations, followed by as many quad lines as are required
to associate the tags with the relevant boundary (quad) faces.   

My question is, can I use the .bas scripting language to create a
.dat file in this particular (ucd) format? The hard part 
seems to be the last 2 lines. The GiD script language 
seems very powerful, so I am confident that it can be done.
 
Can someone point me in the right direction? 

Roger Young.

Applied Maths Group,
Industrial Research Ltd.,
Box 31-310 Lower Hutt,
New Zealand.

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                              [GiDlist] GiD --> ucd format?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jun 23 16:38:50 CEST 2003



You must create a problemtype to define a condition to apply tags over faces, named for example FaceTag, to be applied
over suface geometric entities, and transferred to the mesh over face elems:

file ucd.cnd:

CONDITION: FaceTag
CONDTYPE: over surfaces
CONDMESHTYPE: over face elems
CANREPEAT: yes
QUESTION: Tag
VALUE: 0
END CONDITION

file ucd.bas:

*#coordinates
*npoin *ndime 0 0 0
*loop nodes
*nodesnum *nodescoord(1) *nodescoord(2) *nodescoord(3)
*end nodes
*#hexahedral elements
*set elems(hexahedra)
*loop elems
*elemsnum 0 hex *elemsconec(1) *elemsconec(2) *elemsconec(3) *elemsconec(4)  *elemsconec(5) 

*elemsconec(6) *elemsconec(7) *elemsconec(8)
*end elems
*set elems(all)
*#tags over faces
*Set Cond FaceTag *elems *canrepeat
*set var cont=1
*loop elems *OnlyInCond
*cont *cond(Tag) quad *globalnodes
*set var cont=operation(cont+1)
*end elems

Unzip this sample ucd.gid.zip inside  the GiD /problemtypes directory, 
then start GiD and load this problemtype from the menu Data->Problemtype->ucd
Assign the condition FaceTag to the desired surfaces, and generate a mesh (hexahedrals)

To write the ucd file use: Files->Export->Calculation file...

The *.bas and *.cnd syntax is explained in GiD->Help (customization)

Regards

Enrique Escolano

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                                          [GiDlist] GiD --> ucd format?

Send by: Roger Young
On: Tue Jun 24 05:46:01 CEST 2003



Enrique:

This is excellent, thankyou so much. 
GiD is certainly a very powerful and flexible FE mesh tool...

Regards,
Roger Young

.........................................................................................................
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:29:57 +0200
"Enrique Escolano" <escolano at cimne.upc.es> wrote:

> You must create a problemtype to define a condition to apply tags over faces, named for example FaceTag, to be applied
> over suface geometric entities, and transferred to the mesh over face elems:
> 
> file ucd.cnd:
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                  [GiDlist] Only a signle condition not all

Send by: Andrea Calaon
On: Mon Jun 23 17:17:02 CEST 2003



Hello everyone,
thanks for the suggestion. I use already commands like 

proc InitGIDProject { dir } {
  GidChangeDataLabel "Conditions" ""
}

not to visualize Data Units and similars.
In this case I would like to have the submenu "Conditions" 
displayed, but without only one of the conditions, precisely the 
"Zones" one, which is applied automatically before meshing.
Thanks
Regards

Andrea Calaon

Ashurst Lodge, Ashurst
Southampton, Hampshire
SO40 7AA, UK
Tel. office: +44 23 80 293 223
Fax office: +44 23 80 292 853
Mobile: +44 7766 488 225
E-mail: andrea at beasy.com


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                              [GiDlist] Only a signle condition not all

Send by: Jorge Suit Perez Ronda
On: Wed Jun 25 11:38:01 CEST 2003



Hello, you can use BOOKS in order to do what you want and use 
GidShowBook to hide the BOOK containing the hiden conditions.
Here I include an example:

------------- sample .cnd file -----------

BOOK: Visibles
CONDITION: Point_Constraints
CONDTYPE: over points
CONDMESHTYPE: over nodes
QUESTION: X-Constraint#CB#(0,1)
VALUE: 1
QUESTION: Y-Constraint#CB#(0,1)
VALUE: 1
QUESTION: Z-Constraint#CB#(0,1)
VALUE: 1
END CONDITION
BOOK: Invisibles
CONDITION: Zones
CONDTYPE: over points
CONDMESHTYPE: over nodes
QUESTION: Your_Label
VALUE: your_value
END CONDITION

--------------- end sample .cnd file ----------------

---------------- sample .tcl file -----------------

proc InitGIDProject { dir } {
  GidShowBook "conditions" Invisibles 0
}

------------- end sample .tcl file -----------------

hope it helps,

best regards,

Jorge Suit

Andrea Calaon wrote:

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                  [GiDlist] Re: GiDlist digest, Vol 1 #408 - 6 msgs

Send by: Jeramy Ashlock
On: Mon Jun 23 17:45:02 CEST 2003



>    About the mesh simmetry in a simmetric geometry, as unstructured mesh
> is an heuristic algorithm, you can never guarantee that you will obtain
> the same mesh although the geometry is simmetric. You cannot even
> guarantee that you will obtain the same mesh on two runs of the mesher
> in the same geometry. But good analysis codes do not depend on the mesh,
> do they?
>
>    Regards,
>
> --
> Compass Ing. y Sistemas      Dr. Ramon Ribo
> http://www.compassis.com     ramsan at compassis.com...

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                              [GiDlist] Re: GiDlist digest, Vol 1 #408 - 6 msgs

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jun 23 19:38:01 CEST 2003



About  your previous mails:

In general with GiD, a symmetric geometry not  generate a symmetric mesh, also in structured mesh.

About your round "error rotating the mesh, and a preference to increase this precision." 
This is a corrected bug of some version, truncating incorrectly a input value with 
the "real format" preference. Internally all operation are in double precision.

Update your GiD version to the last beta.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeramy Ashlock" <ashlock at bechtel.Colorado.EDU>
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                  [GiDlist] Counting boundary conditions

Send by: esneyder.montoya at utoronto.ca
On: Wed Jun 25 01:32:02 CEST 2003



Hi there

  Could somebody help me out in something, I am trying to count the number of
restrains in nodes and write the results down in my *.bas files, for a nonlinear
finite element program. This is the first time I use GiD and have no success so
far in doing this.

 the *.bas commands of GiD count the number of nodes with a certain condition
BUT not the number of restraints, that is, if a node XX has three degrees of
freedom restrained (say a fixed support) , the *set cond estatement will count
ONE node BUT not THREE restraints. How can I count the restraints?

I am attaching a piece of the *.bas for your reference:

No. of restraints                          : *
*set var restraints=0
*Set Cond Support-Constraints *nodes
*if(CondNumEntities(int)>0)
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
*format {"%4i"}
*restraints=*Operation(cond(1,int)+cond(2,int)+cond(3,int))
*end nodes
*endif



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                              [GiDlist] Counting boundary conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jun 25 09:53:01 CEST 2003



I don,'t understand exactly what's the desired value, and your definition 
of the Support-Constraints condition, but your code can similar to this:

*set var restraints=0
*Set Cond Support-Constraints *nodes
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
set var restraints=Operation(restraints+cond(1,int)+cond(2,int)+cond(3,int))
*end nodes
No. of restraints: *restraints

It's assumed that the fields 1,2 and 3 of Support-Constraints can be set only to 0 or 1, and 1=degree constraint.

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] Circle Problem - Follow up example

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Wed Jun 25 08:02:01 CEST 2003



Hello:

I was asked to submit a specific example regarding the circle problem 
mentioned earlier.  Here's one that's illustrative:

- Create 3 circle objects centered in 0,0 with radii 1, 0.5, and 0.25 and 
delete the surfaces.
- Create two lines to connect points (-1.1, 0.025) to (1.1, 0.025) and 
(-1.1, -0.025) to (1.1, -0.025)
  (these are two parallel lines to Ox with Y=0.025 and Y=-0.025)
- Make 3 copies of these lines by successive 45deg. rotations about 
(0,0).  You end up with 8 lines.
- Do all the line intersections (16 per circle)

Now, measure the distance between the two points obtained by intersecting 
one line with one circle (we'll say that two parallel lines form a 
pair).  Measure one pair, then the next, etc.  Using GiD 7.2 on my windoze 
xp laptop, here is what I find:

For disc 1 (large):
1.99932
1.99932
1.99751
1.99751
1.99932
1.99932
1.99919
1.99919

For disc 2 (intermediate):
0.998624
0.998624
0.998425
0.998425
0.998634
0.998634
0.996863
0.996863

For disc 3 (small):
0.497494
0.497450
0.497001
0.497494
0.497494
0.497330
0.496836
0.496782

In all cases, variations of the third decimal can be observed.  This may 
seem small, but the relative error on disc 3 is not negligible, I think.

For circles 1 and 2, distance measurements are identical for the lines of 
the same pair, but all the pairs in disc 2 show different results, whereas 
measurements are more consistent for disc 1.
In the case of circle 3, that is not true any more. This indicates that the 
loss of accuracy is indeed related to the model dimensions (but I think a 
circle of radius 0.25 is not unreasonable).

These results will most likely change if I redo the same exact example, 
which is also interesting.

I have not yet checked the cylinder case.

I hope this is helpful.

Philippe




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                              [GiDlist] Circle Problem - Follow up example

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Thu Jun 26 13:28:01 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   We appreciate the example. It will be useful for future
tests.

   As a first idea, I think that the error is more related
to the intersection algorithm that to the mathematical
representation of the NURBS. One way of checking this is
the following:

   - Create the circle
   - Generate a mesh with an arbitrary number of elements
   - Check the distance from any of the generated points to
     the center
   - In my example, the distance is exactly equal to the
     radius. In other example there may be a small difference
     but not in the third digit.

   Regards,

--
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http://www.compassis.com...

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                              [GiDlist] Circle Problem - Follow up example

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jun 26 22:08:02 CEST 2003



It's not a intersection bug or a intrinsic problem of the Nurbs to describe
a circle.
It's a bug in a subdivision algorithm of rational Nurbs: Some weights are
bad calculated in the division procedure.

This is corrected for the next GiD version.
I attach your sample obtained after the related correction.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Bouchilloux" <pb at magsoft-flux.com>
To: "GiDList" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:55 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Circle Problem - Follow up example


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                                          [GiDlist] Circle Problem - Follow up example

Send by: Philippe Bouchilloux
On: Fri Jun 27 15:07:01 CEST 2003



Thanks Enrique

>This is corrected for the next GiD version.
>I attach your sample obtained after the related correction.





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                  [GiDlist] emacs mode for GiD

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Jun 26 15:38:02 CEST 2003



Hi people,

based on the tochnog emacs mode done by "Martin Lüthi" <answer at tnoo.net>
i developed a gid emacs mode to colour the syntax for the
.bas, .cnd, .mat, .prb and .uni files of GiD's problem types files.

http://www.gidhome.com/support/gid_emacs

miguel

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                  [GiDlist] Counting boundary conditions

Send by: Esneyder Montoya
On: Fri Jun 27 00:40:03 CEST 2003



Hi Enrique

many thanks for your answer. However it did not solve my problem. To 
refresh the idea what I want the program to do is:
 Let's say I have the following nodes with the restraints in X , Y , and 
Z directions (1: restrained 0:free)

 Node  Rx  Ry Rz
12          1  0  0
16          1  1  1
22          0  0  1
25          0  1  1

The list of commands you suggested will write the following
set var =  
0  =   1
0  =   3
0  =   1
0  =   2
No. of restraints =  0

However what I need to write into the *.bas files is ONLY:

No. of restraints = 7  

That is the total number of restraints ( node 12 is 1, node 16 is 3, 
node 22 is 1, node 25 is 2, total  = 1 + 3 + 1 + 2 = 7), for the four 
nodes.

Thanks for any hint on this, really appreciated.
Gracias




I don,'t understand exactly what's the desired value, and your =
definition=20
of the Support-Constraints condition, but your code can similar to this:

*set var restraints=3D0
*Set Cond Support-Constraints *nodes
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
set var =
restraints=3DOperation(restraints+cond(1,int)+cond(2,int)+cond(3,int))
*end nodes
No. of restraints: *restraints

It's assumed that the fields 1,2 and 3 of Support-Constraints can be set =
only to 0 or 1, and 1=3Ddegree constraint.

Enrique Escolano

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                              [GiDlist] Counting boundary conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jun 27 19:38:01 CEST 2003



My previous code was not tested (It was only a explanation requiring slight modifications for your especific use)
Is missing an asterisc before "set var restraints=3DOperation(restraints+cond(1,int)+cond(2,int)+cond(3,int))"

I attach a problemtype (CountRest.gid.zip) and a small sample (SampleCount.gid.zip) 
whit your related contition over the nodes 12,16,22 and 25.

the result is as expected:

No. of restraints:       7

Enrique
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Esneyder Montoya 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:42 AM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Counting boundary conditions



  Hi Enrique 

  many thanks for your answer. However it did not solve my problem. To refresh the idea what I want the program to do is:
   Let's say I have the following nodes with the restraints in X , Y , and Z directions (1: restrained 0:free)

   Node  Rx  Ry Rz
  12          1  0  0
  16          1  1  1
  22          0  0  1
  25          0  1  1

  The list of commands you suggested will write the following
  set var =  
  0  =   1
  0  =   3
  0  =   1
  0  =   2
  No. of restraints =  0

  However what I need to write into the *.bas files is ONLY:

  No. of restraints = 7  

  That is the total number of restraints ( node 12 is 1, node 16 is 3, node 22 is 1, node 25 is 2, total  = 1 + 3 + 1 + 2 = 7), for the four nodes. 

  Thanks for any hint on this, really appreciated.
  Gracias





I don,'t understand exactly what's the desired value, and your =
definition=20
of the Support-Constraints condition, but your code can similar to this:

*set var restraints=3D0
*Set Cond Support-Constraints *nodes
*loop nodes *OnlyInCond
set var =
restraints=3DOperation(restraints+cond(1,int)+cond(2,int)+cond(3,int))
*end nodes
No. of restraints: *restraints

It's assumed that the fields 1,2 and 3 of Support-Constraints can be set =
only to 0 or 1, and 1=3Ddegree constraint.

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] inaccurate postprocessing with given Gauss points

Send by: Andres Peratta
On: Mon Jun 30 01:45:02 CEST 2003



When postprocessing scalar results with "given" gauss points
I found out that the visualization becomes quite inaccurate.
For example Contour_fill and Contour_lines options, dont' work properly.
It seems that the defined coordinates of the gauss points should not have
more than 5 decimal figures,
otherwise the given coordinates in the .res file are not read properly 
by GID.

To see what is going on, you can try the following example  in which
a scalar field
                       u(x,y) = x
is visualized in a single unitary triangular element with 6 gauss points
located at the following coordinates :
a = 1/6, b = 2/3, c = 5/12, d = 1/6
( a, a) ( b, a) ( a, b) ( c, d) ( c, c) ( d, c)

( see the attached .res file in which I used different precisions to 
represent the fractional
numbers 1/6, 2/3 and 5/12 , and see what happens when contour_lines
or contour_fill options are selected )

The main problem is that if I want to increase the precision of the 
given coordinates,
beyond 5 figures the result is completely unpredictable,
and if I keep 5 or less figures, the visualization does not reflect the 
real scalar field.
Is there any solution ?
Has anyone faced this problem before ?
Thanks for your help.
best regards,
Andres

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                              [GiDlist] inaccurate postprocessing with given Gauss points

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Jul 1 10:53:01 CEST 2003



Yes, there was a problem with inverting a matrix when zeros appeared
on the diagonal. With 0.16667 there was no problem, but with 0.1666666666666666667.
i think i will prepare a new beta this week with this problem solved.

miguel

Andres Peratta wrote:
> 
> When postprocessing scalar results with "given" gauss points
> I found out that the visualization becomes quite inaccurate.
> For example Contour_fill and Contour_lines options, dont' work properly.
> It seems that the defined coordinates of the gauss points should not have
> more than 5 decimal figures,
> otherwise the given coordinates in the .res file are not read properly
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                  [GiDlist] Postprocessing with Gauss Points

Send by: Andres Peratta
On: Tue Jul 1 13:09:01 CEST 2003



Hi there !
Here I come with another problem related to gauss points.
The problem is that I can't see any Graph analysis
when postprocessing scalar results with gauss points.

I tried with 
View_Results -> Graph -> Point_Analysis
View_Results -> Graph -> Point Graph
View_Results -> Graph -> Border Graph
and all of them become disabled at the moment of choosing any result.

I have tried this feature with GID 7.1.4b and GID 7.2 ( linux version )
Is this normal, or is it that I'm doing something wrong ?
Any suggestion will be very helpful
Many thanks,
Andres


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Wessex Institute of Technology
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                              [GiDlist] Postprocessing with Gauss Points

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Jul 1 13:53:01 CEST 2003



At the moment graphs on gauss point results are not supported.
but it will be in a short term.

miguel

Andres Peratta wrote:
> 
> Hi there !
> Here I come with another problem related to gauss points.
> The problem is that I can't see any Graph analysis
> when postprocessing scalar results with gauss points.
> 
> I tried with
> View_Results -> Graph -> Point_Analysis
> View_Results -> Graph -> Point Graph
> View_Results -> Graph -> Border Graph
> and all of them become disabled at the moment of choosing any result.
...

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                  [GiDlist] Re: GiDlist digest, Vol 1 #414 - 1 msg

Send by: Andres Peratta
On: Tue Jul 1 13:27:01 CEST 2003



Thank you very much,
I do appreciate your repply and your effort.
I am working with GID in boundary elements methods (BEM).
This definition of gauss points ( a = 1/6, b = 2/3, c = 5/12, d = 1/6)
is very common in BEM, when using triangular discontinuous elements.
I believe that anyone working with BEM will really appreciate this 
feature of GID.

best regards,
Andres

gidlist-request at gatxan.cimne.upc.es wrote:

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                  [GiDlist] Saving boundary conditions

Send by: Jonas Forssell
On: Thu Jul 3 13:48:01 CEST 2003



Hello,
 
Is there a way to save a boundary condition setup, similar to what is possible for materials?
 
Thanks
/Jonas

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                              [GiDlist] Saving boundary conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jul 3 15:09:01 CEST 2003



It has not sense to save a GiD condition in a database, because the contition field values are different for each 
assignation to an entity. In other hand, a GiD material has usually constant values.

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jonas Forssell 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:47 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] Saving boundary conditions


  Hello,

  Is there a way to save a boundary condition setup, similar to what is possible for materials?

  Thanks
  /Jonas
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Send by: Jonas Forssell
On: Thu Jul 3 18:40:02 CEST 2003



The reason I am asking is because I have found that by
defining many parameters as conditions (although they
are things like elemement number of integration
points, parameters etc), I can define and assign all
the data I want to the model and get an excellent
output file.

You can see the thinking if you download the GID
preprocessor interface to my program from
http://impact.sourceforge.net

I dabbled with the Idea of using materials instead but
there can only be one material per element while there
can be several conditions per element.

The problem is that once I have defined a "condition"
and assigned it to an element, my settings get erased.

Thanks
/Jonas




 --- Enrique Escolano <...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Saving boundary conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jul 4 11:08:01 CEST 2003



It is possible to define a field #MAT# inside a condition or material. This
field point to a material name (it's automatically updated with the current
materials).

You can group some "shared" values of a condition in a GiD material, and
point it. This "special" materials can be locaded in another book.

Download the problemtype nastran2. It's a good sample using this #MAT# field
(some materials of a book named "PROPERTIES" point to materials of another
book named "MATERIAL")

Can download nastran2 from GiD (menu Data->Problemtype->Internet
Retrieve...)
or from this web page: http://www.compassis.com...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Saving boundary conditions

Send by: Jonas Forssell
On: Thu Jul 17 19:17:02 CEST 2003



Thanks Enrique,
 
Excellent workaround! I'll use that one from now on.
 
For the authors of GID, I'd like to propose saveable conditions as a possible future feature to an otherwise very nice software.
 
Thanks
/Jonas
 


Enrique Escolano <escolano at cimne.upc.es> wrote:
It is possible to define a field #MAT# inside a condition or material. This
field point to a material name (it's automatically updated with the current
materials).

You can group some "shared" values of a condition in a GiD material, and
point it. This "special" materials can be locaded in another book.

Download the problemtype nastran2. It's a good sample using this #MAT# field
(some materials of a book named "PROPERTIES" point to materials of another
book named "MATERIAL")

Can download nastran2 from GiD (menu Data->Problemtype->Internet
Retrieve...)
or from this web page: ...

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                  [GiDlist] new GiD 7.4.2b beta version

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jul 3 15:08:02 CEST 2003



It exists a new GiD7.4.2b beta version, available for Windows and Linux

To download it, go to the 'Download GiD beta versions' section: http://www.gidhome.com/download/do07.subst

This beta version has basically several corrected bugs.

_______________________________________________________
Enrique Escolano
http://www.gidhome.com                                 escolano at cimne.upc.es 
CIMNE - Centro Internacional de Métodos Numéricos en Ingeniería
C/ Gran Capitán s/n, Modulo C1, Campus Norte UPC,
E-08034 Barcelona, Spain                                tel. +34 93 401 74 03
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                  [GiDlist] RealFormat

Send by: NUNIO Francois DAPNIA
On: Tue Jul 8 10:04:02 CEST 2003



Hello,

I have a problem with the node coordinate output (random shift of the
column) when I use the format command :

Gid  *.bas file (partial) :

...
...
*RealFormat "%22.14E"
*loop nodes
*NodesCoord(1,real)
*NodesCoord(2,real)
*endif
*end nodes
...
...

Output (partial) :
...
...
  8.93893535425073E+01
 -5.94093577063217E+00
 -1.50000000000000E+00
  8.42523817128309E+01
 -4.56193076496659E+00
 -1.50000000000000E+00
  8.21569253738304E+01
  1.22646133016995E+01
 -1.50000000000000E+00
 8.61009970470839E+01
-6.87078553039366E+00
-1.50000000000000E+00
 8.05839756925027E+01
-3.16789659893504E+00
-1.50000000000000E+00
 8.85163594431580E+01
-7.74133767712196E+00
...
...

What's wrong with my template file ?

Regards,

François
___________________________________
François NUNIO
CEA-Saclay
DSM/DAPNIA/SIS/LCAP
Bât. 123 - 91191 Gif-Sur-Yvette cedex
Tel : 0169082391 / Fax : 0169088138

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Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jul 8 11:08:01 CEST 2003



RealFormatThis is a corrected bug.

Update to the last GiD7.4.2b beta version.

Enrique Escolano.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: NUNIO Francois DAPNIA 
  To: 'gidlist at gid.cimne.upc.es' 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:01 AM
  Subject: [GiDlist] RealFormat


  Hello, 

  I have a problem with the node coordinate output (random shift of the column) when I use the format command : 

  Gid  *.bas file (partial) : 

  ... 
  ... 
  *RealFormat "%22.14E" 
  *loop nodes 
  *NodesCoord(1,real) 
  *NodesCoord(2,real) 
  *endif 
  *end nodes 
  ... 
  ... 

  Output (partial) : 
  ... 
  ... 
    8.93893535425073E+01 
   -5.94093577063217E+00 
   -1.50000000000000E+00 
    8.42523817128309E+01 
   -4.56193076496659E+00 
   -1.50000000000000E+00 
    8.21569253738304E+01 
    1.22646133016995E+01 
   -1.50000000000000E+00 
   8.61009970470839E+01 
  -6.87078553039366E+00 
  -1.50000000000000E+00 
   8.05839756925027E+01 
  -3.16789659893504E+00 
  -1.50000000000000E+00 
   8.85163594431580E+01 
  -7.74133767712196E+00 
  ... 
  ... 

  What's wrong with my template file ? 

  Regards, 

  François 
  ___________________________________ 
  François NUNIO 
  CEA-Saclay 
  DSM/DAPNIA/SIS/LCAP 
  Bât. 123 - 91191 Gif-Sur-Yvette cedex 
  Tel : 0169082391 / Fax : 0169088138 
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                              [GiDlist] assign condition automatically

Send by: Malte Neumann
On: Tue Jul 8 11:43:02 CEST 2003



Hi,

Some weeks ago I read on this list about assigning conditions automatically 
before meshing.  I now read through most of the documentation and could not 
find a clue how to do this.

Can anybody please explain how to do this or where to find an explanation.

Thanks in advance

Malte


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Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ekkehard Ramm
Universitaet Stuttgart / University of Stuttgart

Pfaffenwaldring 7, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germany

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                                          [GiDlist] assign condition automatically

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jul 8 13:39:02 CEST 2003



The last beta version 7.4.2b has two new tcl events raised by GiD (not included in the documentation by now):
proc BeforeMeshGeneration { size } and proc AfterMeshGeneration { fail }
This procedures are similar to InitGidProject, tipically used by a problemtype to change menus, etc.

This tcl procedures can be overwritten by a problemtype to make some action, for example, assign automatically 
a condition to some entities before mesh:

To test this events, create a problemtype.tcl file with this procedures:
(and also a problemtype.cnd with a condition named "MyCond" with two fields)

proc BeforeMeshGeneration { size } {
  WarnWinText "BeforeMeshGeneration $size"
   #assign a condition named "MyCond" with field values "valueA" and "ValueB" to all entities (from number 1 to last)
  .central.s process escape escape escape escape data cond assign Mycond valueA valueB 1: escape
}

proc AfterMeshGeneration { fail } {
  WarnWinText "AfterMeshGeneration $fail"
}

Regards
Enrique Escolano

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                              [GiDlist] frame around window in movies

Send by: Michael Gee
On: Wed Jul 9 16:03:02 CEST 2003



Dear mailing list users,
when producing a movie from gid, gid adds a colored frame around the
graphics window.
can this fram be influenced in thickness in color, and if, where do I
find this in the gid menus?
Thank You very much in advance, Michael Gee

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----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Institut fuer Baustatik / Institute of Structural Mechanics
                Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ekkehard Ramm
      Universitaet Stuttgart / University of Stuttgart

                      Pfaffenwaldring 7
                      D-70550 Stuttgart

                      Tel  +711-685-6572
                      Fax  +711-685-6130
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                                          [GiDlist] frame around window in movies

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jul 9 18:08:01 CEST 2003



GiD not adds any colored frame to your movies (avi, mpg, ...). 
It's can be a setting of your animation player program.

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Gee 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:02 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] frame around window in movies


  Dear mailing list users, 
  when producing a movie from gid, gid adds a colored frame around the graphics window. 
  can this fram be influenced in thickness in color, and if, where do I find this in the gid menus? 
  Thank You very much in advance, Michael Gee 
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
                      Michael Gee
----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Institut fuer Baustatik / Institute of Structural Mechanics       
                Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ekkehard Ramm                        
      Universitaet Stuttgart / University of Stuttgart          


                      Pfaffenwaldring 7
                      D-70550 Stuttgart

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                                                      [GiDlist] Select "Layer" by righ mouse click no longer available?

Send by: kenji furui
On: Thu Jul 10 19:21:01 CEST 2003



Dear GiD members,

I've just installed GiD ver7.4.2b. (Windows)
I couldn't find "Layer" selection by a right mouse
click , which was supported in the previous versions.
I'm just wondering if this is a bug or something.
If this is the new feature, please disregard this
message.

thanks,

Kenji Furui
U. of Texas at Austin
Dept. of Petroleum & Geosystems Eng.


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                                                      [GiDlist] Select "Layer" by righ mouse click no longer available?

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jul 10 20:38:01 CEST 2003



This Layer menu is removed to test if can exists a relation between this
menu and a known bug (upper menu locked),
as related in a FAQ:
"With the OS Microsoft Windows, sometimes exists a conflict with the menu
bar, and they remain blocked.
It is possible to unlock the menu bar without restarting GiD, by using the
keyboard shortcuts (e.g. Alt+f, to invoke the Files menu)."

For future beta versions, this menu can be restored.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kenji furui" <petrocowboy at yahoo.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                  [GiDlist] A question about Meshing

Send by: edodo
On: Thu Jul 17 05:49:01 CEST 2003



HI,All
   I create a volume model,But I can't mesh it.You can find the Gid files in the attached files.Can you help me?
  BTW,Is there Gid's Parralel version.
  
   Thanks

	

======= 2003-07-03 15:00:00 You wrote£º=======

>It has not sense to save a GiD condition in a database, because the contition field values are different for each 
>assignation to an entity. In other hand, a GiD material has usually constant values.
>
>Enrique Escolano
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Jonas Forssell 
>  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                  [GiDlist] A question about Meshing

Send by: edodo
On: Thu Jul 17 06:25:02 CEST 2003



Dear,sir/madam,edodo

	sorry
    I forget to attach files in last mail.


======= 2003-07-17 11:48:00 You wrote£º=======

>HI,All
>   I create a volume model,But I can't mesh it.You can find the Gid files in the attached files.Can you help me?
>  BTW,Is there Gid's Parralel version.
>  
>   Thanks
>
>	
>
>======= 2003-07-03 15:00:00 You wrote£º=======
>
>>It has not sense to save a GiD condition in a database, because the contition field values are different for each 
>>assignation to an entity. In other hand, a GiD material has usually constant values.
...

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                              [GiDlist] FEAP problem type

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Sat Jul 19 19:42:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD Team, GiD users

    Is there a problem type (for solid mechanics) for Feap and Feappv available to download?  Thank you in advanced.

Best regards,
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                                          [GiDlist] FEAP problem type

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Mon Jul 21 10:01:01 CEST 2003



Dear GiDList friend

   Go and Check the following website:

http://www.bh.com/companions/fem

Good luck



--- Adisorn Owatsiriwong <dollarbulldog at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear GiD Team, GiD users
> 
>     Is there a problem type (for solid mechanics)
> for Feap and Feappv available to download?  Thank
> you in advanced.
> 
> Best regards,
> 


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                                          [GiDlist] FEAP problem type

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jul 21 11:08:01 CEST 2003



You can download a old version of feap: Feap 7.4, including a small GiD problemtype, from this ftp:

ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid_adds/problem_types/feap74_offer_win.zip
ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid_adds/problem_types/feap74_offer_linux.zip

This is the FEAP ver 74 distribution.

It contains:

- GiD problemtype -->  gid_feap.gid (copy it into the directory 'problemtypes' in the GiD distribution)

- Feap program for Windows (feap.exe). It is inside the gid_feap.gid directory.

- Libraries to recompile the program with user routines:

      -For Windows: check file 'readme.win' and directory 'library_win'

To create a Feap model from GiD:

     - Install the problemtype (copy gid_feap.gid to the directory 'problemtypes'
                                   in the GiD distribution)
     - Open GiD
     - Inside GiD, select from the menus: Data->Problemtype->gid_feap
     - Create your model, assign boundary conditions, materials and loads
     - Generate the mesh
     - Press button 'Calculate->Calculate'. Feap program will appear.
     - Note that for Feap advanced capabilities, it will be necessary to
       edit the Feap input file in order to introduce additional data.

Regards

Enrique Escolano
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adisorn Owatsiriwong 
  To: GiD 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:40 PM
  Subject: [GiDlist] FEAP problem type


  Dear GiD Team, GiD users

      Is there a problem type (for solid mechanics) for Feap and Feappv available to download?  Thank you in advanced.

  Best regards,
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                                                      [GiDlist] FEAP problem type

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Mon Jul 21 18:25:02 CEST 2003



  Thanks GiD Teams for your supporting. 

  Bests Regards,


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Enrique Escolano 
  To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es 
  Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [GiDlist] FEAP problem type


  You can download a old version of feap: Feap 7.4, including a small GiD problemtype, from this ftp:

  ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid_adds/problem_types/feap74_offer_win.zip
  ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid_adds/problem_types/feap74_offer_linux.zip...

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                              [GiDlist] mesh reading

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Mon Jul 21 22:04:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD teams

 Does GiD support the way to remesh automatically during postprocessing; for example, in case of h-adaptivity can we view the results of the new meshes without interupting the process? By this way I think it should be necessary that multiple flavia.msh files must be stored, can we do so? Thank you in advanced.

Best regards,
 
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                                          [GiDlist] mesh reading

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Jul 24 12:08:02 CEST 2003



hi,
by now you can not view a different mesh for each step within GiD.
you have to save separate .msh and .res files foreach step and 
read each pair in GiD.
we're working now in GiD so that it can handle different meshes
for each analysis step, for instance when there is a mesh refinement 
during the analysis.

miguel
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                  [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: edodo
On: Tue Jul 22 11:05:02 CEST 2003



Dear GiD teams
   There are a new availab in GID 7.4.2b of Mesh extrusion,But I can't find it in Copy windows! Can you help me? 



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                              [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jul 22 20:38:01 CEST 2003



This feature is also available in previous 7.x versions.
Select mesh view, and then open the "copy window".

Can extrude elements by translation, rotation, etc.

Enrique

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "edodo" <fea at eyou.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion


> Dear GiD teams
>    There are a new availab in GID 7.4.2b of Mesh extrusion,But I can't
find it in Copy windows! Can you help me?
>...

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                  [GiDlist] Post Processing on given gauss points for tri3 and quad4 elements

Send by: Guy HUBERT
On: Wed Jul 23 10:48:01 CEST 2003



I am currently developping the interface between Gid 7.2 on Windows and a
finite
elment solver.

1 - I have a shell mesh with results defines on gauss points on triangle
(T3) and
quadrilateral (Q4) elements. When I want to show contour, I have to choose
T3 or
Q4, but I cannot view T3 and Q4 on the same image, I try to use "Several
Results"
but I cannot add more than one result.

2 - For results defined on Quauss Point (Given), how Gid decides to display
result with contour or with colored points located at gauss point location ?

Thanks

________________________________________________________________
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                              [GiDlist] Post Processing on given gauss points for tri3 and quad4  elements

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Jul 24 12:23:02 CEST 2003



Hi,

1. there is no way to show a c.fill of a result defined on two different
gauss points sets at once.
2. by given natural coordinates, gid tries to extrapolate the results
to the nodes of the element:
   1/3/6 gauss points per triangle
   1/4/9 gauss points per cuadrilateral
   1/4 per tetrahedra
   1/8/27 per hexahedra
(download the 7.4.2b version which solves some interpolation problems),
and if this is not possible, then it will draw the gauss points result
as coloured spheres. Nevertheless you can always label the gauss point
results which will be located at the gauss points.

a question for the list:
does anybody know which are the natural coordinates for 10 Gauss points
in a tetrahedra?

miguel

Guy HUBERT wrote:
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                                          [GiDlist] Natural coordinates for 10 Gauss points in tetrahedra

Send by: Guy HUBERT
On: Thu Jul 24 14:40:03 CEST 2003



Hello,

I haven't found anything on this level of integration, several
publications give 1, 4, 5 or 15 gauss points on tetrahera.

I join the Code_Aster documentation with weight and coordinates
of integration points. The same are reported in 
"Finite Element method displayed" from Touzot and Dhatt.

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                  [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: edodo
On: Thu Jul 24 03:13:01 CEST 2003



Dear,Enrique Escolano

	Thanks
    There are some error in this way when I use Offest.Can you help me.

======= 2003-07-22 20:26:00 You wrote:=======

>This feature is also available in previous 7.x versions.
>Select mesh view, and then open the "copy window".
>
>Can extrude elements by translation, rotation, etc.
>
>Enrique
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "edodo" <fea at eyou.com>
>To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                              [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jul 24 14:53:01 CEST 2003



Send us a small sample and the procedure to obtain this error.

Note: If you use a version previous to 7.4.2-b, must update (from the web
section download beta versions). Some bugs can be corrected.

Enrique
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "edodo" <fea at eyou.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion


> Dear,Enrique Escolano
>
> Thanks
>     There are some error in this way when I use Offest.Can you help me.
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                  [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: edodo
On: Fri Jul 25 03:52:01 CEST 2003



Dear,sir/madam,Enrique Escolano
     
   There is a sample in attached files. You should tanslate to Mesh view in Gid When you open the files of "sa.gid",And I create a bach file,butTHe model which you import bach files are better than the sa.gid,but there are some wrong on the boundary.
  BTW,I will get different model when i import sa.bch? Why?
    Thanks for your help   
	

======= 2003-07-24 14:53:00 You wrote:=======

>Send us a small sample and the procedure to obtain this error.
>
>Note: If you use a version previous to 7.4.2-b, must update (from the web
>section download beta versions). Some bugs can be corrected.
...

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                  [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: edodo
On: Fri Jul 25 03:54:01 CEST 2003



Dear,sir/madam,Enrique Escolano
     
   There is a sample in attached files. You should tanslate to Mesh view in Gid When you open the files of "sa.gid",And I create a bach file,butTHe model which you import bach files are better than the sa.gid,but there are some wrong on the boundary.
  BTW,I will get different model when i import sa.bch? Why?
    Thanks for your help   
	

======= 2003-07-24 14:53:00 You wrote:=======

>Send us a small sample and the procedure to obtain this error.
>
>Note: If you use a version previous to 7.4.2-b, must update (from the web
>section download beta versions). Some bugs can be corrected.
...

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                              [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Jul 25 23:08:02 CEST 2003



Yes, This is a bug (a variable not initialized), with random results.
It'is corrected for the next beta version (the next week be available).

Note: It's possible to generate prims by triangle extrusion, but this
element type has a very small support in GiD at this moment (cannot be
loaded in postprocess or see boundaries in preprocess, etc).

Thanks for your bug report.

Enrique Escolano

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From: "edodo" <fea at eyou.com>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es...

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                  [GiDlist] Post Processing on Gauss Points

Send by: Guy HUBERT
On: Fri Jul 25 13:18:02 CEST 2003



Hello,

I have 2 quastions about Post Procesing on Gauss Points

1 - For a result file with given gauss points, "contour fill" is displayed
with "big colored points" located at gauss point location, it is very
convenient for some applications. Is there any options to get this display
on all results at "gauss points"

2 - My solver give me "results on node", but elements by elments, in order
to keep this information for results dysplay, I use the option "results on
gauss point" with "given gauss points" located on nodes of the reference
element. Is there any other way to achieve this objective ?

Thanks

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                              [GiDlist] Post Processing on Gauss Points

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Jul 25 14:23:01 CEST 2003



Hi,
1- No, but it seems an interesting option, so i think it will be 
   available for the next version. In the meantime you can label the 
   these results. The label will be drawn at the gauss points location.
2- No, the way you are doing it is the one i would also have chosen.

miguel

Guy HUBERT wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have 2 quastions about Post Procesing on Gauss Points
> 
> 1 - For a result file with given gauss points, "contour fill" is displayed
> with "big colored points" located at gauss point location, it is very
> convenient for some applications. Is there any options to get this display
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                  [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: edodo
On: Mon Jul 28 10:37:01 CEST 2003



Dear,Enrique Escolano
   Thanks.
   How can I set boundaries(such as surface load) on the Hexahra element,I only Can set the Load on the first surface ,I can't set it on the create element surface.

   BTW,What's mean of S_i S_ii S_iii in the menu ViewRests Which the rest files used the matrix type in postpress. 
	

======= 2003-07-25 23:02:00 You wrote:=======

>Yes, This is a bug (a variable not initialized), with random results.
>It'is corrected for the next beta version (the next week be available).
>
>Note: It's possible to generate prims by triangle extrusion, but this
>element type has a very small support in GiD at this moment (cannot be
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                              [GiDlist] A question about Mesh extrusion

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jul 30 20:38:01 CEST 2003



I don't understand your questions, but i try to request it:

>    How can I set boundaries(such as surface load) on the Hexahra element,I only Can set the Load on the first surface ,I can't set it on the create element surface.


If you want to apply a condition 'over face elems' directly over the mesh, instead to over the surfaces and after generate the mesh, it exists some 
problems:

It is not possible to select a face, it's needed to select a element, and
GiD automatically apply this conditions over the boundary faces (the interface betwheen two materials is considered also boundary)

If your condition is defined CanRepeat: No (by default), then only is applied
the condition over one face by element, else is applied a condition foreach boundary face. Probably you must set CanRepeat: yes in the *.cnd file.

BTW,What's mean of S_i S_ii S_iii in the menu ViewRests Which the rest files used the matrix type in postpress. 

Si, Sii and Siii represent the eigen values & vectors of the symmetric tensor matrix results which are calculated by GiD, and which are ordered according to the eigen value.

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] Potential problems with results on Gauss Points with 8 nodes Hexadron

Send by: Guy HUBERT
On: Mon Jul 28 11:33:02 CEST 2003



Hello

It seems there is an interpolation problem with this exemple on
Gid 7.2 for Windows.

To see the problem,
Load .res
View->Read and select bar.vpt

Display with color-Fill SIEF_R g_SIXX (g is for gauss)

If you labeled elements results, you will see that results for elements
1 and 2 are symetric. This is not the case in the colored fill picture
and value seems very strange.

You can view the right distribution with SIEF_R n_SIXX (on nodes elements by
elements) or with SIEF_R SIXX (on nodes)

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                              [GiDlist] Potential problems with results on Gauss Points with 8  nodes Hexadron

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Jul 29 12:24:02 CEST 2003



Hi,

yes, this problem was corrected with version GiD 7.4.2b.
but with this version you can not read your saved views
(some more parameters has been added).
the next beta version, which will be available in a couple
of days, will read these views.

miguel

Guy HUBERT wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> It seems there is an interpolation problem with this exemple on
> Gid 7.2 for Windows.
> 
> To see the problem,
> Load .res
> View->Read and select bar.vpt
> 
> Display with color-Fill SIEF_R g_SIXX (g is for gauss)
> 
> If you labeled elements results, you will see that results for elements
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                              [GiDlist] Create Text

Send by: ieea
On: Mon Jul 28 14:43:02 CEST 2003



Dear All,

I wish create a text automatically from a Tcl command.
I suppose I should use the GID command "Utilities Dimension Create
Text", but I don't know how
to indicate the text that will appear.

If somebody has ever used this command in a Tcl script I will thank him
in advance.

Thanks,

G.W.R. Geis




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                                          [GiDlist] Create Text

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Mon Jul 28 21:38:01 CEST 2003



the GiD command to create a text is:
escape escape escape utilities dimension create text "the text" leftmouse x
y
x y are the relative screen coordinates from a range -1.0 to 1.0. The screen
center is (0, 0)

Note: the current GiD version expects interactively the text input: To avoid
the text input window, must set
temporary the variable UseMoreWindows to 0 (Utilities Variables
UseMoreWindows 0) and after restore
to the previous value (to get the value must use .central.s info variables
UseMoreWindows)

Enrique Escolano
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From: "ieea" <ieea at club-internet.fr...

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                                                      [GiDlist] Create Text

Send by: ieea
On: Mon Jul 28 23:14:01 CEST 2003



Thank you Enrique
One more time, it's running good now.
G.W.R. Geis

Enrique Escolano a écrit :

> the GiD command to create a text is:
> escape escape escape utilities dimension create text "the text" leftmouse x
> y
> x y are the relative screen coordinates from a range -1.0 to 1.0. The screen
> center is (0, 0)
>
> Note: the current GiD version expects interactively the text input: To avoid
> the text input window, must set
> temporary the variable UseMoreWindows to 0 (Utilities Variables
> UseMoreWindows 0) and after restore
> to the previous value (to get the value must use .central.s info variables
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                  [GiDlist] Creating and exporting one node elements (point element)

Send by: Guy HUBERT
On: Mon Jul 28 17:26:01 CEST 2003



Hello

I need to export, in calculation file, point element. In my .bas, I have
tried
nelem(point) and elems(point) by they are not allowed, then I used the code
below
*#
*# Mailles Point (1 noeud)
*# -----------------------
*if(npoin)
POI1
*loop elems
*if(ElemsNnode==1)
*GenData(3)*ElemsNum*GenData(2)*ElemsConec(1)
*endif
*End elems
FINSF

It works, but is it the correct method ?

Another question is that I cannot create point element on another geometry
than volumes,
I have seen that linear elements can be assigned to lines, surfaces and
volumes. Is it
right ?

It could be interesting to have the same function than lineaar element for
point element
(even mesh geometrical point).

Thanks
________________________________________________________________
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                              [GiDlist] Creating and exporting one node elements (point element)

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Tue Jul 29 22:53:01 CEST 2003



Your sintax is valid, but instead to use *if(npoin)  (this return the number of nodes, not the number or 1-noded elements)
must use a previous loop to count this number of elements or check if exists at least one 1-noded element and break.

*set var ExistsElem1=0
*loop elems
*if(ElemsNnode==1)
*set var ExistsElem1=1
*break
*endif
*End elems
*if(ExistsElem1)
...

At this moment not exists a command *nelem(npoin) or *set elem(npoin)  for 1-noded elements. 
The next beta version GiD7.4.3b includes for this element type the order *nelem(onlypoints) and *set elem(onlypoints)

For example, for this GiD7.4.3b and higher is also valid:

*if(nelem(onlypoints))
*set elems(onlypoints)
*loop elems
*ElemsNum *ElemsConec(1)
*End elems
*endif

This related version 7.4.3b can be available to download this week (inside the download beta versions section).

Enrique Escolano

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From: "Guy HUBERT" <...

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                              [GiDlist] postprocessing in batch mode

Send by: Matias Gabriel Zielonka
On: Mon Jul 28 18:40:02 CEST 2003



I am running gid 7.2 in linux.

I would like to postprocess a tecplot file in batch mode.
The tasks I wish are:
-Import the tecplot file
-generate a bandplot of a variable named "FZ"
-export a snapshot
-quit gid

To do this I generated the following batchfile:

____________
escape escape escape escape Postprocess
escape escape escape escape files readTECPLOT
./tecplot_file_name.dat
escape escape escape escape results contourfill FZ
hardcopy png
./png_file_name.png
escape escape escape escape quit
____________


I found the following problems:

1- when I run with "gid -b batchfile" the snapshot file is generated but
is empty.
2- when I run with "gid -b batchfile -n" the snapshot fil is not generated
at all.
3- when I run gid in interactive mode, and load the batchfile with the
command line "file batch batchfile", I found the same problem as in 1
4- Only when I run gid in interactive mode, and load the batchfile with
the interactive "read batch window" dialog, everything works, which means
that the batch file was generated properly, and that there are not any
problems in the tecplot input file.

Any suggestions?

Best regards.



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                                          [GiDlist] postprocessing in batch mode

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jul 30 15:08:01 CEST 2003



1- when I run with "gid -b batchfile" the snapshot file is generated but  is empty.

Must use the flag -b+g to enable some graphic capabilities:

gid -b+g batchfile

2- when I run with "gid -b batchfile -n" the snapshot fil is not generated at all.

At this moment It's not possible to create a image without open a Window to draw.

3- when I run gid in interactive mode, and load the batchfile with the
   command line "file batch batchfile", I found the same problem as in 1

It seems a bug to correct (using some GiD versions can works ok).


4- Only when I run gid in interactive mode, and load the batchfile with
   the interactive "read batch window" dialog, everything works, which means
   that the batch file was generated properly, and that there are not any
   problems in the tecplot input file.

Enrique Escolano

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                  [GiDlist] gid.exe error

Send by: Calogero Fontana
On: Tue Jul 29 11:57:01 CEST 2003



Hi, I have a problem: when I assign material to an object and then i push on draw/colour, a window tell me that  there is an gid.exe error and  GiD is closed.
How can i do to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Calogero.
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                              [GiDlist] gid.exe error

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Tue Jul 29 12:23:01 CEST 2003



Hi,
which version of GiD are you using?
can you post an example where this happens?

miguel

> Calogero Fontana wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have a problem: when I assign material to an object and then i push on draw/colour, a window tell me that  there is an
> gid.exe error and  GiD is closed.
> How can i do to solve this problem?
> Thanks in advance,
> Calogero.

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                  [GiDlist] Conditions

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Wed Jul 30 10:43:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
I assign some conditions with some values, but whe iI read the file **.cnd,in
the field VALUE there is default value.Why?
And then, when I Unassign all condition i think that file **.cnd should
be erase, but it is there with the previous value.
Thanks in advance!
Calogero.




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                              [GiDlist] Conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jul 30 12:53:02 CEST 2003



The file *.cnd contain the template of the condition (questions and default
values),
but not contain the instances of this template (the values and assigned
entities).

This condition instances are saved in the *.lin binary file.

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kalo81 at virgilio.it>
To: "GIDLIST" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Conditions


> Hi everyone,
> I assign some conditions with some values, but whe iI read the file
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                                          [GiDlist] How to include different types of .res files

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Thu Jul 31 06:25:02 CEST 2003



Hi GiD Team and all
   I would like to display the Outputs in .res file in
different types of Analysis. For example: I have
output in "Linear Static case" and "Non Linear with
Time step" "Influence line" and so forth..
How can I Include these results in PostProcessing
file??

Can we use the command "include"? if so how? Please
give small example.

Best Regards


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                                                      [GiDlist] How to include different types of .res files

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Thu Jul 31 08:38:02 CEST 2003



You can write these results in the same .res file:

GiD Post Results File 1.0
...
Result "damage" "Linear Static case" 0.0 Scalar OnNodes
...
Result "damage evolution" "Non linear with time step" 1.0 Scalar OnNodes
...

and so on.

You can alo use "include", like this:

GiD Post Results File 1.0
...
include "My Other Results File"
...
include "another file"
...
and so on.

miguel

VSayako Willy wrote:
> 
> Hi GiD Team and all
>    I would like to display the Outputs in .res file in
> different types of Analysis. For example: I have
> output in "Linear Static case" and "Non Linear with
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                                                      [GiDlist] How to include different types of .res files

Send by: VSayako Willy
On: Fri Aug 1 12:53:01 CEST 2003



Many thanks Miguel
     Please take a look my attached file and Please
advice what's wrong in the file format. I also
included the OldFormat of the .res file. Both are not
working properly

Best regards.


--- "Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" <miguel at cimne.upc.es>
wrote:
> You can write these results in the same .res file:
> 
> GiD Post Results File 1.0
> ...
> Result "damage" "Linear Static case" 0.0 Scalar
> OnNodes
> ...
> Result "damage evolution" "Non linear with time
> step" 1.0 Scalar OnNodes
...

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                                                      [GiDlist] How to include different types of .res files

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Aug 1 14:54:01 CEST 2003



Hi,

just add a new-line after the last 'end values' line.

miguel

VSayako Willy wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Miguel
>      Please take a look my attached file and Please
> advice what's wrong in the file format. I also
> included the OldFormat of the .res file. Both are not
> working properly
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> --- "Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau" <miguel at cimne.upc.es>
> wrote:
> > You can write these results in the same .res file:
...

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                  [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Wed Jul 30 11:58:01 CEST 2003



Is it possible to do a search on the gid list archives & if so how?

Is there any specific documentation on the use of SET HIDE RESTORE &
DEPENDENCIES as used in the .prb file with ver gid 6.3.0b, I have downloaded
the nastran problem type & looked at it's .prb file but I have a problem
with some of my QUESTION fields not hiding when they should, see below .prb
file


PROBLEM DATA
BOOK: Model Units
TITLE: Units
QUESTION: Units#CB#(m,mm)
VALUE: mm
HELP: Choose the units for the model
BOOK: Matrix Solver
TITLE: Type
QUESTION: Solution_Method#CB#(Direct,Iterative)
VALUE: Iterative
DEPENDENCIES:(Direct,RESTORE,LU,#CURRENT#,HIDE,Algorithm,#CURRENT#,HIDE,Prec
onditioner,#CURRENT#,HIDE,Precision,#CURRENT#,HIDE,Residual_error,#CURRENT#)
(Iterative,HIDE,LU,#CURRENT#,RESTORE,Algorithm,#CURRENT#,RESTORE,Precision,#
CURRENT#,RESTORE,Residual_error,#CURRENT#)
QUESTION: LU#CB#(Decomposition)
VALUE: Decomposition
QUESTION: Algorithm#CB#(CGS,BiCG,BiCGSTAB)
VALUE: CGS
DEPENDENCIES:(CGS,RESTORE,Preconditioner,#CURRENT#)(BiCG,HIDE,Preconditioner
,#CURRENT#)(BiCGSTAB,HIDE,Preconditioner,#CURRENT#)
HELP: Conjugate gradient squared (CGS) likely to be best choice.
QUESTION: Preconditioner#CB#(Vanilla,Point_Jacobi,Tridiagonal)
HELP: Tridiagonal fastest but uses most memory (reccomended) Vanilla slowest
but requires least memory.
VALUE: Tridiagonal
QUESTION:Precision#CB#(Single,Double)
HELP: Internal precision of iterative solver, fastest is Double but requires
more memory for vector storage. Matrix is held as single precision
VALUE: Double
QUESTION:Residual_error
VALUE: 1e-6
HELP: The smaller the value the more iterations required.
END GENERAL DATA


I select matrix solver as direct & fields hide OK I then accept data  &
close. But if I open up   data-problem data-matrix solver again then a
supposedly hidden field Preconditioner shows itself ?
Is this a bug that can only be fixed by upgrading?

Are comments allowed in a .prb file & if so how?

Thanks in advance
Mark

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                              [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jul 30 15:23:02 CEST 2003



In the main page of GiD (http://www.gidhome.com) exists a input field to
make a search.

It's located at the lower right corner (attention: it is difficult to
distinguish it of the background)

Note: Some features cannot work for old GiD versions.

Enrique Escolano
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Smith" <mark.smith at linx.co.uk>
To: "Gidlist (E-mail)" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:59 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files


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                              [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files

Send by: Ramon Ribó
On: Wed Jul 30 15:56:01 CEST 2003



   Hello,

   You can search the list archives in:

   http://gid.cimne.upc.es/pipermail/gidlist

   Regards,

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                  [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Wed Jul 30 16:18:01 CEST 2003



Yes I can do a manual search [look through each archive :-( ] but there is
no automatic word search facility.
Regards
Mark

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From: Ramon Ribó [mailto:ramsan at compassis.com]
Sent: 30 July 2003 14:55
To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
Subject: RE: [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files



   Hello,

   You can search the list archives in:

   http://gid.cimne.upc.es/pipermail/gidlist

   Regards,


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                              [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Wed Jul 30 16:53:02 CEST 2003



This is the search field:



And this is a sample output for  tre "dependencies" word

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From: "Mark Smith" <mark.smith at linx.co.uk>
To: <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: [GiDlist] Searching the archives & .prb files


> Yes I can do a manual search [look through each archive :-( ] but there is
> no automatic word search facility.
> Regards
> Mark
> 
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                  [GiDlist] Re: gid.exe error

Send by: Calogero Fontana
On: Thu Jul 31 12:31:02 CEST 2003



Dear Miguel,
I'm using GiD 7.2, demo version.
In my notebook when i assign materials or conditions to the object and then i want that GiD draws them, pushing "draw" an error window appears and GiD is closed. This event happens also in my computer  when i try to create  **.jpeg format of the object with the assigned materials.
Best regards,
Calogero     
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                              [GiDlist] Re: gid.exe error

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Aug 1 15:38:02 CEST 2003



1) If only crash drawing material in your notebook, it can be a graphic card problem.

This is the content of a related Help->F.A.Q: I try to open GiD by the first time on MS Windows and it crashes

Tipically, these type of problems are caused by the graphics acceleration card.

A possibility to avoid the problem is the following:
Try to start GiD safe mode (from the start menu) and activate use Software OpenGL

If the problem persists, try to deactivate the graphic hardware acceleration
(Screen properties->Advanced options).
Also try a different colour resolutions (select 32 bits of colour for example)
Search in the web page of your card if there are actualized drivers for your graphic card.

2) Update to the last GiD 7.4.3b version (only available now for Windows).

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                  [GiDlist] .sim file & conditions

Send by: Mark Smith
On: Thu Jul 31 18:18:02 CEST 2003



Hi GiD team
I am using  material to apply what are effectively surface boundary
conditions (no volumes are created) e.g. see part of .mat file below:

NUMBER: 1 MATERIAL: 1
QUESTION: Value
VALUE: 0.0
QUESTION: surface_condition:#CB#(Potential,Charge)
VALUE: Potential
END MATERIAL
NUMBER: 1 MATERIAL: 2
QUESTION: Value
VALUE: 0.0
QUESTION: surface_condition:#CB#(Potential,Charge)
VALUE: Potential
END MATERIAL

etc..

now when I do Materials-draw-all materials my surfaces are shown coloured
but I don't know which condition was applied. Is there any way of using the
.sim file and a symbol geometry files to attach a different symbol to each
material depending on if it is a Potential or Charge?

Best regards
Mark

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                              [GiDlist] .sim file & conditions

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Thu Jul 31 21:53:02 CEST 2003



It's not possible to draw a symbol for a material.
In your case, it seems best to use a condition instead a material
And, it has sense to predefine two materials with the same fields and
values?

Enrique
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To: "Gidlist (E-mail)" <gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:18 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] .sim file & conditions


> Hi GiD team
> I am using  material to apply what are effectively surface boundary
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                  [GiDlist] Now available GiD7.4.3b-win

Send by: Enrique Escolano
On: Fri Aug 1 13:53:01 CEST 2003



Hello
It's available a new GiD beta version 7.4.3b for Windows, with multiple corrected 
small bugs and some new feature.

Can see a list of changes and corrections in the GiD Help: 
        What's new -> Last detailed changes from version 7.2 to 7.4b

For example: 
  a.. New GiD-tcl, info and bas template commands
  b.. RecentFiles menu to access to the last models.
  c.. 'Utilities->graphical->animation script' window which allows the user to define a sequence of scenes which will be animated
  d.. 'Utilities->Report' window for creating reports: images, List Entities info, text, etc. can be inserted.
  e.. Smooth Contour fill: shows a contour fill with smoothed gauss points results: min, max and mean value of the nodal extrapolated results
      Etc.
 
Regards

The GiD Team
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                              [GiDlist] Now available GiD7.4.3b-win

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Aug 1 14:53:02 CEST 2003



another added feature is this one:
using the 'points' display style which draws spheres at the nodes,
when a c.fill of a gauss point results is selected, it will draw
coloured spheres at the gauss points.

miguel
Guy HUBERT wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have 2 quastions about Post Procesing on Gauss Points
> 
> 1 - For a result file with given gauss points, "contour fill" is displayed
> with "big colored points" located at gauss point location, it is very
> convenient for some applications. Is there any options to get this display
> on all results at "gauss points"
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                              [GiDlist] How can I get the new version 7.4.3b?

Send by: Adisorn Owatsiriwong
On: Fri Aug 1 16:06:01 CEST 2003



Dear Gid team,

    How can I download the new version 7.4.3b for windows; I 've seen only v.7.2 is the lastest version on gid homepage.

Thank you
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                                          [GiDlist] How can I get the new version 7.4.3b?

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Fri Aug 1 16:23:02 CEST 2003



look into the betas section,

ftp://www.gidhome.com/pub/gid_adds/Windows

miguel

> Adisorn Owatsiriwong wrote:
> 
> Dear Gid team,
> 
>     How can I download the new version 7.4.3b for windows; I 've seen only v.7.2 is the lastest version on gid homepage.
> 
> Thank you

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                  [GiDlist] Several problem

Send by: kalo81 at virgilio.it
On: Sat Aug 2 10:48:01 CEST 2003



Hi everyone,
when i try to open, in a postprocessing contest, a file "myfile.msh" a info
window appears in which is written: "too few parameters:in this line: 7-
Reading mesh".
What does it mean?
What should i do?

And also, i have always the same problem with gid.exe error; now in postprocessing
too. It happens when i push every option in "view results".
Best regards,
Calogero




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                              [GiDlist] Several problem

Send by: Miguel A. de Riera Pasenau
On: Mon Aug 4 10:53:02 CEST 2003



it means that there is an error the the file, and it can not be read.
is the file is written in GiD postprocess format?
look at http://www.gidhome.com/support/gid_16.subst#SEC237
can you post the file?

Do the gid.exe error still appear when you change to 256 colors?
Have you tried to select the 'GiD safe mode' menu entry, inside
the window's Start menu->Programs->GiD...->GiD safe mode; and then
have you choosen the 'Yes, i'm experiencing troubles with my card and
want to use the software OpenGL?
Have you tried upgrading your graphic card drivers?
Which graphic card does your notebook have 
(Controlpanel->Display->Setting->Advanced options->adaptor) ?

best regards
miguel

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                  [GiDlist] Advantage

Send by: Calogero Fontana
On: Sat Aug 2 17:07:01 CEST 2003



Dear GiD team, 
I'm using demo version, if i download GiD 7.4.3b, shall it give an advantage to me?
And also, when i press "strem lines" a dialog window appeares in which is written: 
Waring: at the moment only works on thetrahedras"
What does it mean?
If a create a structural volume mesh (esahedral),Shall i  able to use this option? 
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